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    <title>Poetry For All - Episodes Tagged with “Science And Medicine”</title>
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    <description>This podcast is for those who already love poetry and for those who know very little about it. In this podcast, we read a poem, discuss it, see what makes it tick, learn how it works, grow from it, and then read it one more time.
Introducing our brand new Poetry For All website: https://poetryforallpod.com! Please visit the new website to learn more about our guests, search for thematic episodes (ranging from Black History Month to the season of autumn), and subscribe to our newsletter. 
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    <itunes:subtitle>Finding Our Way Into Great Poems</itunes:subtitle>
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    <itunes:summary>This podcast is for those who already love poetry and for those who know very little about it. In this podcast, we read a poem, discuss it, see what makes it tick, learn how it works, grow from it, and then read it one more time.
Introducing our brand new Poetry For All website: https://poetryforallpod.com! Please visit the new website to learn more about our guests, search for thematic episodes (ranging from Black History Month to the season of autumn), and subscribe to our newsletter. 
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  <title>Episode 50: Rafael Campo, Primary Care</title>
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  <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, we discuss how Rafael Campo, a practicing physician, uses blank verse to explore the experience of illness and suffering. </itunes:subtitle>
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  <description>In this episode, we discuss how Rafael Campo, a practicing physician, uses blank verse to explore the experience of illness and suffering.
Thanks to the Georges Borchardt, Inc. for granting us permission to read this poem. You can find "Primary Care" in Alternative Medicine (Duke University Press, 2013).  
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    <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss how Rafael Campo, a practicing physician, uses blank verse to explore the experience of illness and suffering.</p>

<p>Thanks to the Georges Borchardt, Inc. for granting us permission to read this poem. You can find &quot;Primary Care&quot; in <em>Alternative Medicine</em> (Duke University Press, 2013). </p><p>Links:</p><ul><li><a title="Campo reads Primary Care" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hltjf8H3WJI">Campo reads Primary Care</a></li><li><a title="Campo Author Page" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.rafaelcampo.com/">Campo Author Page</a></li><li><a title="Campo at the Poetry Foundation" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/rafael-campo">Campo at the Poetry Foundation</a></li></ul>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss how Rafael Campo, a practicing physician, uses blank verse to explore the experience of illness and suffering.</p>

<p>Thanks to the Georges Borchardt, Inc. for granting us permission to read this poem. You can find &quot;Primary Care&quot; in <em>Alternative Medicine</em> (Duke University Press, 2013). </p><p>Links:</p><ul><li><a title="Campo reads Primary Care" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hltjf8H3WJI">Campo reads Primary Care</a></li><li><a title="Campo Author Page" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.rafaelcampo.com/">Campo Author Page</a></li><li><a title="Campo at the Poetry Foundation" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/rafael-campo">Campo at the Poetry Foundation</a></li></ul>]]>
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  <title>Episode 44: Ann Hudson, Soap</title>
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  <pubDate>Wed, 16 Mar 2022 15:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
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  <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, Ann Hudson joins us to read her poem “Soap” and discuss how its narrative structure allows her to explore the history of science, technology, and our notions of progress and beauty, even when those notions do great harm to ordinary workers. </itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>23:19</itunes:duration>
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  <description>In this episode, Ann Hudson joins us to read her poem “Soap” and discuss how its narrative structure allows her to explore the history of science, technology, and our notions of progress and beauty, even when those notions do great harm to ordinary workers. 
Ann is the author of two collections of poetry: The Armillary Sphere (https://www.ohioswallow.com/book/The+Armillary+Sphere), which was selected by Mary Kinzie as the winner of the Hollis Summers Poetry Prize and published by Ohio University Press; and Glow (https://nextpage-press.com/glow-by-ann-hudson.html), published by Next Page Press. Her poems have appeared in many literary journals, including Crab Orchard Review, North American Review, Orion, Prairie Schooner, and The Seattle Review. Ann is senior editor for RHINO.
To learn more about Ann's work, please visit her website (https://www.annhudson.net/index.html).
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    <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Ann Hudson joins us to read her poem “Soap” and discuss how its narrative structure allows her to explore the history of science, technology, and our notions of progress and beauty, even when those notions do great harm to ordinary workers. </p>

<p>Ann is the author of two collections of poetry: <a href="https://www.ohioswallow.com/book/The+Armillary+Sphere" rel="nofollow">The Armillary Sphere</a>, which was selected by Mary Kinzie as the winner of the Hollis Summers Poetry Prize and published by Ohio University Press; and <a href="https://nextpage-press.com/glow-by-ann-hudson.html" rel="nofollow">Glow</a>, published by Next Page Press. Her poems have appeared in many literary journals, including <em>Crab Orchard Review, North American Review, Orion, Prairie Schooner</em>, and <em>The Seattle Review</em>. Ann is senior editor for <em>RHINO</em>.</p>

<p>To learn more about Ann&#39;s work, please visit her <a href="https://www.annhudson.net/index.html" rel="nofollow">website</a>.</p>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Ann Hudson joins us to read her poem “Soap” and discuss how its narrative structure allows her to explore the history of science, technology, and our notions of progress and beauty, even when those notions do great harm to ordinary workers. </p>

<p>Ann is the author of two collections of poetry: <a href="https://www.ohioswallow.com/book/The+Armillary+Sphere" rel="nofollow">The Armillary Sphere</a>, which was selected by Mary Kinzie as the winner of the Hollis Summers Poetry Prize and published by Ohio University Press; and <a href="https://nextpage-press.com/glow-by-ann-hudson.html" rel="nofollow">Glow</a>, published by Next Page Press. Her poems have appeared in many literary journals, including <em>Crab Orchard Review, North American Review, Orion, Prairie Schooner</em>, and <em>The Seattle Review</em>. Ann is senior editor for <em>RHINO</em>.</p>

<p>To learn more about Ann&#39;s work, please visit her <a href="https://www.annhudson.net/index.html" rel="nofollow">website</a>.</p>]]>
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  <title>Episode 33: Adrienne Rich, Power</title>
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  <pubDate>Wed, 10 Nov 2021 13:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
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  <itunes:subtitle>This week, the poet and scholar Stephanie Burt joins us to discuss the extraordinary power of Adrienne Rich. We think through how the spacing and stanzas of a poem can draw out denials and divulgences, while also exploring the life and writing of Rich.</itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>17:21</itunes:duration>
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  <description>This week, the poet and scholar Stephanie Burt joins us to discuss the extraordinary power of Adrienne Rich. We think through how the spacing and stanzas of a poem can draw out denials and divulgences, while also exploring the life and writing of Rich.
Stephanie Burt's excellent book Don't Read Poetry  (https://www.basicbooks.com/titles/stephanie-burt/dont-read-poetry/9780465094516/)ends with an examination of this poem by Adrienne Rich. The book, which can be found at the link, offers an introduction to reading poems and different ways of approaching them.
For the text of the poem, see here (https://allpoetry.com/poem/11641436-Power-by-Adrienne-Rich).
For more on Adrienne Rich (https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/adrienne-rich), please see the Poetry Foundation.
For more on Stephanie Burt (https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/stephanie-burt), please see the Poetry Foundation.
Photograph (https://digitalcollections.nypl.org/items/5e66b3e8-c127-d471-e040-e00a180654d7) of Adrienne Rich by Robert Giard.
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  <itunes:keywords>20th century, ars poetica, body in pain, free verse, guest on the show, lgbtqia month, science and medicine, social justice and advocacy, women's history month</itunes:keywords>
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    <![CDATA[<p>This week, the poet and scholar Stephanie Burt joins us to discuss the extraordinary power of Adrienne Rich. We think through how the spacing and stanzas of a poem can draw out denials and divulgences, while also exploring the life and writing of Rich.</p>

<p>Stephanie Burt&#39;s excellent book <a href="https://www.basicbooks.com/titles/stephanie-burt/dont-read-poetry/9780465094516/" rel="nofollow"><em>Don&#39;t Read Poetry</em> </a>ends with an examination of this poem by Adrienne Rich. The book, which can be found at the link, offers an introduction to reading poems and different ways of approaching them.</p>

<p>For the text of the poem, <a href="https://allpoetry.com/poem/11641436-Power-by-Adrienne-Rich" rel="nofollow">see here</a>.</p>

<p>For more on <a href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/adrienne-rich" rel="nofollow">Adrienne Rich</a>, please see the Poetry Foundation.</p>

<p>For more on <a href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/stephanie-burt" rel="nofollow">Stephanie Burt</a>, please see the Poetry Foundation.</p>

<p><a href="https://digitalcollections.nypl.org/items/5e66b3e8-c127-d471-e040-e00a180654d7" rel="nofollow">Photograph</a> of Adrienne Rich by Robert Giard.</p><p>Links:</p><ul><li><a title="Power by Adrienne Rich - Famous poems, famous poets. - All Poetry" rel="nofollow" href="https://allpoetry.com/poem/11641436-Power-by-Adrienne-Rich">Power by Adrienne Rich - Famous poems, famous poets. - All Poetry</a></li><li><a title="Adrienne Rich | Poetry Foundation" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/adrienne-rich">Adrienne Rich | Poetry Foundation</a></li><li><a title="Stephanie Burt | Poetry Foundation" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/stephanie-burt">Stephanie Burt | Poetry Foundation</a></li></ul>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<p>This week, the poet and scholar Stephanie Burt joins us to discuss the extraordinary power of Adrienne Rich. We think through how the spacing and stanzas of a poem can draw out denials and divulgences, while also exploring the life and writing of Rich.</p>

<p>Stephanie Burt&#39;s excellent book <a href="https://www.basicbooks.com/titles/stephanie-burt/dont-read-poetry/9780465094516/" rel="nofollow"><em>Don&#39;t Read Poetry</em> </a>ends with an examination of this poem by Adrienne Rich. The book, which can be found at the link, offers an introduction to reading poems and different ways of approaching them.</p>

<p>For the text of the poem, <a href="https://allpoetry.com/poem/11641436-Power-by-Adrienne-Rich" rel="nofollow">see here</a>.</p>

<p>For more on <a href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/adrienne-rich" rel="nofollow">Adrienne Rich</a>, please see the Poetry Foundation.</p>

<p>For more on <a href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/stephanie-burt" rel="nofollow">Stephanie Burt</a>, please see the Poetry Foundation.</p>

<p><a href="https://digitalcollections.nypl.org/items/5e66b3e8-c127-d471-e040-e00a180654d7" rel="nofollow">Photograph</a> of Adrienne Rich by Robert Giard.</p><p>Links:</p><ul><li><a title="Power by Adrienne Rich - Famous poems, famous poets. - All Poetry" rel="nofollow" href="https://allpoetry.com/poem/11641436-Power-by-Adrienne-Rich">Power by Adrienne Rich - Famous poems, famous poets. - All Poetry</a></li><li><a title="Adrienne Rich | Poetry Foundation" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/adrienne-rich">Adrienne Rich | Poetry Foundation</a></li><li><a title="Stephanie Burt | Poetry Foundation" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/stephanie-burt">Stephanie Burt | Poetry Foundation</a></li></ul>]]>
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  <title>Episode 20: Hester Pulter, View But This Tulip</title>
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  <pubDate>Mon, 29 Mar 2021 10:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
  <author>Joanne Diaz and Abram Van Engen</author>
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  <itunes:subtitle>Wendy Wall joins us to discuss an extraordinary poet whose works went unknown for over three hundred years. Hester Pulter brought together science, religion, poetic traditions and so much more. Her 120 remarkable poems are now available at the award-winning Pulter Project website.</itunes:subtitle>
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  <description>Wendy Wall joins us to discuss an extraordinary poet whose works went unknown for over three hundred years. Hester Pulter brought together science, religion, poetic traditions and so much more. Her 120 remarkable poems are now available at the award-winning Pulter Project (https://pulterproject.northwestern.edu/) website.
In this episode we discuss her work with emblems, her scientific chemistry experiment with flowers, and her wonderment (both worried and confident, doubtful and awestruck) about the resurrection of the body and its reunification with the soul after death.
For a biography of Hester Pulter, see here: 
https://pulterproject.northwestern.edu/about-hester-pulter-and-the-manuscript.html
For her poems, see the Pulter Project here:
https://pulterproject.northwestern.edu/
Here is the text of today's poem:
"View But This Tulip" (Emblem 40)
View but this tulip, rose, or gillyflower,
And by a finite, see an infinite power.
These flowers into their chaos were retired
Till human art them raised and reinspired
With beating, macerating, fermentation,
Calcining, chemically, with segregation;
Then, lest the air these secrets should reveal,
Shut up the ashes under Hermes’s seal;
Then, with a candle or a gentle fire,
You may reanimate at your desire
These gallant plants; but if you cool the glass,
To their first principles they’ll quickly pass:
From sulfur, salt, and mercury they came;
When they dissolve, they turn into the same.
Then, seeing a wretched mortal hath the power
To recreate a Virbius of a flower,
Why should we fear, though sadly we retire
Into our cause? Our God will reinspire
Our dormant dust, and keep alive the same
With an all-quick’ning, everlasting flame.
Then, though I into atoms scattered be,
In indivisibles I’ll trust in Thee.
Then let this comfort me in my sad story:
Dust is but four degrees removed from glory
By Nature’s paths, but God from death and night
Can raise this flesh to endless life and light.
Then, my impatient soul, contented be,
For thou a glorious spring ere long shalt see.
After these gloomy shades of death and sorrow,
Thou shalt enjoy an everlasting morrow.
As wheat in new-plowed furrows rotting lies,
Incapable of quick’ning till it dies,
So into dust this flesh of mine must turn
And lie a while forgotten in my urn.
Yet when the sea, and earth, and Hell shall give
Their treasures up, my body too shall live:
Not like the resurrection at Grand Caire,
Where men revive, then straight of life despair;
But, with my soul, my flesh shall reunite
And ne’er involvéd be with death and night,
But live in endless pleasure, love, and light.
Then hallelujahs will I sing to thee,
My gracious God, to all eternity.
Then at thy dissolution patient be:
If man can raise a flower, God can thee.
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  <itunes:keywords>17th century, christianity, guest on the show, hope, rhymed verse, science and medicine, spirituality</itunes:keywords>
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    <![CDATA[<p>Wendy Wall joins us to discuss an extraordinary poet whose works went unknown for over three hundred years. Hester Pulter brought together science, religion, poetic traditions and so much more. Her 120 remarkable poems are now available at the award-winning <a href="https://pulterproject.northwestern.edu/" rel="nofollow">Pulter Project</a> website.</p>

<p>In this episode we discuss her work with emblems, her scientific chemistry experiment with flowers, and her wonderment (both worried and confident, doubtful and awestruck) about the resurrection of the body and its reunification with the soul after death.</p>

<p>For a biography of Hester Pulter, see here: <br>
<a href="https://pulterproject.northwestern.edu/about-hester-pulter-and-the-manuscript.html" rel="nofollow">https://pulterproject.northwestern.edu/about-hester-pulter-and-the-manuscript.html</a></p>

<p>For her poems, see the Pulter Project here:<br>
<a href="https://pulterproject.northwestern.edu/" rel="nofollow">https://pulterproject.northwestern.edu/</a></p>

<p>Here is the text of today&#39;s poem:</p>

<p><strong>&quot;View But This Tulip&quot; (Emblem 40)</strong></p>

<p>View but this tulip, rose, or gillyflower,<br>
And by a finite, see an infinite power.<br>
These flowers into their chaos were retired<br>
Till human art them raised and reinspired<br>
With beating, macerating, fermentation,<br>
Calcining, chemically, with segregation;<br>
Then, lest the air these secrets should reveal,<br>
Shut up the ashes under Hermes’s seal;<br>
Then, with a candle or a gentle fire,<br>
You may reanimate at your desire<br>
These gallant plants; but if you cool the glass,<br>
To their first principles they’ll quickly pass:<br>
From sulfur, salt, and mercury they came;<br>
When they dissolve, they turn into the same.<br>
Then, seeing a wretched mortal hath the power<br>
To recreate a Virbius of a flower,<br>
Why should we fear, though sadly we retire<br>
Into our cause? Our God will reinspire<br>
Our dormant dust, and keep alive the same<br>
With an all-quick’ning, everlasting flame.<br>
Then, though I into atoms scattered be,<br>
In indivisibles I’ll trust in Thee.<br>
Then let this comfort me in my sad story:<br>
Dust is but four degrees removed from glory<br>
By Nature’s paths, but God from death and night<br>
Can raise this flesh to endless life and light.<br>
Then, my impatient soul, contented be,<br>
For thou a glorious spring ere long shalt see.<br>
After these gloomy shades of death and sorrow,<br>
Thou shalt enjoy an everlasting morrow.<br>
As wheat in new-plowed furrows rotting lies,<br>
Incapable of quick’ning till it dies,<br>
So into dust this flesh of mine must turn<br>
And lie a while forgotten in my urn.<br>
Yet when the sea, and earth, and Hell shall give<br>
Their treasures up, my body too shall live:<br>
Not like the resurrection at Grand Caire,<br>
Where men revive, then straight of life despair;<br>
But, with my soul, my flesh shall reunite<br>
And ne’er involvéd be with death and night,<br>
But live in endless pleasure, love, and light.<br>
Then hallelujahs will I sing to thee,<br>
My gracious God, to all eternity.<br>
Then at thy dissolution patient be:<br>
If man can raise a flower, God can thee.</p>]]>
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  <itunes:summary>
    <![CDATA[<p>Wendy Wall joins us to discuss an extraordinary poet whose works went unknown for over three hundred years. Hester Pulter brought together science, religion, poetic traditions and so much more. Her 120 remarkable poems are now available at the award-winning <a href="https://pulterproject.northwestern.edu/" rel="nofollow">Pulter Project</a> website.</p>

<p>In this episode we discuss her work with emblems, her scientific chemistry experiment with flowers, and her wonderment (both worried and confident, doubtful and awestruck) about the resurrection of the body and its reunification with the soul after death.</p>

<p>For a biography of Hester Pulter, see here: <br>
<a href="https://pulterproject.northwestern.edu/about-hester-pulter-and-the-manuscript.html" rel="nofollow">https://pulterproject.northwestern.edu/about-hester-pulter-and-the-manuscript.html</a></p>

<p>For her poems, see the Pulter Project here:<br>
<a href="https://pulterproject.northwestern.edu/" rel="nofollow">https://pulterproject.northwestern.edu/</a></p>

<p>Here is the text of today&#39;s poem:</p>

<p><strong>&quot;View But This Tulip&quot; (Emblem 40)</strong></p>

<p>View but this tulip, rose, or gillyflower,<br>
And by a finite, see an infinite power.<br>
These flowers into their chaos were retired<br>
Till human art them raised and reinspired<br>
With beating, macerating, fermentation,<br>
Calcining, chemically, with segregation;<br>
Then, lest the air these secrets should reveal,<br>
Shut up the ashes under Hermes’s seal;<br>
Then, with a candle or a gentle fire,<br>
You may reanimate at your desire<br>
These gallant plants; but if you cool the glass,<br>
To their first principles they’ll quickly pass:<br>
From sulfur, salt, and mercury they came;<br>
When they dissolve, they turn into the same.<br>
Then, seeing a wretched mortal hath the power<br>
To recreate a Virbius of a flower,<br>
Why should we fear, though sadly we retire<br>
Into our cause? Our God will reinspire<br>
Our dormant dust, and keep alive the same<br>
With an all-quick’ning, everlasting flame.<br>
Then, though I into atoms scattered be,<br>
In indivisibles I’ll trust in Thee.<br>
Then let this comfort me in my sad story:<br>
Dust is but four degrees removed from glory<br>
By Nature’s paths, but God from death and night<br>
Can raise this flesh to endless life and light.<br>
Then, my impatient soul, contented be,<br>
For thou a glorious spring ere long shalt see.<br>
After these gloomy shades of death and sorrow,<br>
Thou shalt enjoy an everlasting morrow.<br>
As wheat in new-plowed furrows rotting lies,<br>
Incapable of quick’ning till it dies,<br>
So into dust this flesh of mine must turn<br>
And lie a while forgotten in my urn.<br>
Yet when the sea, and earth, and Hell shall give<br>
Their treasures up, my body too shall live:<br>
Not like the resurrection at Grand Caire,<br>
Where men revive, then straight of life despair;<br>
But, with my soul, my flesh shall reunite<br>
And ne’er involvéd be with death and night,<br>
But live in endless pleasure, love, and light.<br>
Then hallelujahs will I sing to thee,<br>
My gracious God, to all eternity.<br>
Then at thy dissolution patient be:<br>
If man can raise a flower, God can thee.</p>]]>
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  <title>Episode 12: James Merrill, Christmas Tree</title>
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  <description>In this episode, Spencer Reece guides us through a reading of "Christmas Tree," one of the last poems that James Merrill wrote before his death. We learned so much through this conversation--about the friendship between James Merrill and Spencer Reece, the rhetorical force of visual poems, and the emotional power of elegy during the AIDS pandemic as well as in our own moment. 
For the full text of "Christmas Tree," please see this page (https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poetrymagazine/browse?contentId=39363) from the September 1995 issue of Poetry magazine.
For more on James Merrill, please see this page (https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/james-merrill) from the Poetry Foundation website.
For more on Spencer Reece, please see this page (https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/spencer-reece) from the Poetry Foundation website. 
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<p>For the full text of &quot;Christmas Tree,&quot; please see <a href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poetrymagazine/browse?contentId=39363" rel="nofollow">this page</a> from the September 1995 issue of <em>Poetry</em> magazine.</p>

<p>For more on James Merrill, please see <a href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/james-merrill" rel="nofollow">this page</a> from the Poetry Foundation website.</p>

<p>For more on Spencer Reece, please see <a href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/spencer-reece" rel="nofollow">this page</a> from the Poetry Foundation website. </p>]]>
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<p>For the full text of &quot;Christmas Tree,&quot; please see <a href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poetrymagazine/browse?contentId=39363" rel="nofollow">this page</a> from the September 1995 issue of <em>Poetry</em> magazine.</p>

<p>For more on James Merrill, please see <a href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/james-merrill" rel="nofollow">this page</a> from the Poetry Foundation website.</p>

<p>For more on Spencer Reece, please see <a href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/spencer-reece" rel="nofollow">this page</a> from the Poetry Foundation website. </p>]]>
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