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    <title>Poetry For All - Episodes Tagged with “Spirituality”</title>
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    <description>This podcast is for those who already love poetry and for those who know very little about it. In this podcast, we read a poem, discuss it, see what makes it tick, learn how it works, grow from it, and then read it one more time.
Introducing our brand new Poetry For All website: https://poetryforallpod.com! Please visit the new website to learn more about our guests, search for thematic episodes (ranging from Black History Month to the season of autumn), and subscribe to our newsletter. 
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    <itunes:subtitle>Finding Our Way Into Great Poems</itunes:subtitle>
    <itunes:author>Joanne Diaz and Abram Van Engen</itunes:author>
    <itunes:summary>This podcast is for those who already love poetry and for those who know very little about it. In this podcast, we read a poem, discuss it, see what makes it tick, learn how it works, grow from it, and then read it one more time.
Introducing our brand new Poetry For All website: https://poetryforallpod.com! Please visit the new website to learn more about our guests, search for thematic episodes (ranging from Black History Month to the season of autumn), and subscribe to our newsletter. 
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  <title>Episode 106: Jane Mead, I wonder if I will miss the moss</title>
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  <pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2026 17:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
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  <itunes:subtitle>This poem offers a humble love of the world and a leave-taking of it. It was found in the papers of Jane Mead (1958-2019), which were left to her great friend Kathleen Finneran (1957-2026), and it was published in the New Yorker in 2021 through Kathleen's efforts. The poem was read at the memorial for Mead in 2021 and then again at the funeral for Finneran in 2026.</itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>21:18</itunes:duration>
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  <description>This poem offers a humble love of the world and a leave-taking of it. It was found in the papers of Jane Mead (1958-2019), which were left to her great friend Kathleen Finneran (1957-2026), and it was published in the New Yorker in 2021 through Kathleen's efforts. The poem was read at the memorial for Mead in 2021 and then again at the funeral for Finneran in 2026.
Here is the poem:
I Wonder If I Will Miss the Moss
—Jane Mead (1958-2019)
I wonder if I will miss the moss
after I fly off as much as I miss it now
just thinking about leaving.
There were stones of many colors.
There were sticks holding both
lichen and moss.
There were red gates with old
hand-forged hardware.
There were fields of dry grass
smelling of first rain
then of new mud. There was mud,
and there was the walking,
all the beautiful walking,
and it alone filled me—
the smells, the scratchy grass heads.
All the sleeping under bushes,
once waking to vultures above, peering down
with their bent heads the way they do,
caricatures of interest and curiosity.
Once too a lizard.
Once too a kangaroo rat.
Once too a rat.
They did not say I belonged to them,
but I did.
Whenever the experiment on and of
my life begins to draw to a close
I’ll go back to the place that held me
and be held. It’s O.K. I think
I did what I could. I think
I sang some, I think I held my hand out.
For The New Yorker, see here (https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2021/09/20/i-wonder-if-i-will-miss-the-moss).
For a reflection on the poem by the poet Devin Kelly, see Kelly's Substack Ordinary Plots (https://ordinaryplots.substack.com/p/jane-meads-i-wonder-if-i-will-miss).
For more on Jane Mead, see The Poetry Foundation (https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/jane-mead).
For the memorial service and the tribute by Kathleen Finneran (https://www.janewmead.com/tribute), see Mead's personal webpage.
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    <![CDATA[<p>This poem offers a humble love of the world and a leave-taking of it. It was found in the papers of Jane Mead (1958-2019), which were left to her great friend Kathleen Finneran (1957-2026), and it was published in the New Yorker in 2021 through Kathleen&#39;s efforts. The poem was read at the memorial for Mead in 2021 and then again at the funeral for Finneran in 2026.</p>

<p>Here is the poem:</p>

<p><strong>I Wonder If I Will Miss the Moss</strong><br>
—Jane Mead (1958-2019)</p>

<p>I wonder if I will miss the moss<br>
after I fly off as much as I miss it now<br>
just thinking about leaving.</p>

<p>There were stones of many colors.<br>
There were sticks holding both<br>
lichen and moss.<br>
There were red gates with old<br>
hand-forged hardware.<br>
There were fields of dry grass<br>
smelling of first rain<br>
then of new mud. There was mud,<br>
and there was the walking,<br>
all the beautiful walking,<br>
and it alone filled me—<br>
the smells, the scratchy grass heads.<br>
All the sleeping under bushes,<br>
once waking to vultures above, peering down<br>
with their bent heads the way they do,<br>
caricatures of interest and curiosity.<br>
Once too a lizard.<br>
Once too a kangaroo rat.<br>
Once too a rat.<br>
They did not say I belonged to them,<br>
but I did.</p>

<p>Whenever the experiment on and of<br>
my life begins to draw to a close<br>
I’ll go back to the place that held me<br>
and be held. It’s O.K. I think<br>
I did what I could. I think<br>
I sang some, I think I held my hand out.</p>

<p>For The New Yorker, <a href="https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2021/09/20/i-wonder-if-i-will-miss-the-moss" rel="nofollow">see here</a>.</p>

<p>For a reflection on the poem by the poet Devin Kelly, see Kelly&#39;s Substack <a href="https://ordinaryplots.substack.com/p/jane-meads-i-wonder-if-i-will-miss" rel="nofollow">Ordinary Plots</a>.</p>

<p>For more on Jane Mead, see <a href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/jane-mead" rel="nofollow">The Poetry Foundation</a>.</p>

<p>For the memorial service and <a href="https://www.janewmead.com/tribute" rel="nofollow">the tribute by Kathleen Finneran</a>, see Mead&#39;s personal webpage.</p>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<p>This poem offers a humble love of the world and a leave-taking of it. It was found in the papers of Jane Mead (1958-2019), which were left to her great friend Kathleen Finneran (1957-2026), and it was published in the New Yorker in 2021 through Kathleen&#39;s efforts. The poem was read at the memorial for Mead in 2021 and then again at the funeral for Finneran in 2026.</p>

<p>Here is the poem:</p>

<p><strong>I Wonder If I Will Miss the Moss</strong><br>
—Jane Mead (1958-2019)</p>

<p>I wonder if I will miss the moss<br>
after I fly off as much as I miss it now<br>
just thinking about leaving.</p>

<p>There were stones of many colors.<br>
There were sticks holding both<br>
lichen and moss.<br>
There were red gates with old<br>
hand-forged hardware.<br>
There were fields of dry grass<br>
smelling of first rain<br>
then of new mud. There was mud,<br>
and there was the walking,<br>
all the beautiful walking,<br>
and it alone filled me—<br>
the smells, the scratchy grass heads.<br>
All the sleeping under bushes,<br>
once waking to vultures above, peering down<br>
with their bent heads the way they do,<br>
caricatures of interest and curiosity.<br>
Once too a lizard.<br>
Once too a kangaroo rat.<br>
Once too a rat.<br>
They did not say I belonged to them,<br>
but I did.</p>

<p>Whenever the experiment on and of<br>
my life begins to draw to a close<br>
I’ll go back to the place that held me<br>
and be held. It’s O.K. I think<br>
I did what I could. I think<br>
I sang some, I think I held my hand out.</p>

<p>For The New Yorker, <a href="https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2021/09/20/i-wonder-if-i-will-miss-the-moss" rel="nofollow">see here</a>.</p>

<p>For a reflection on the poem by the poet Devin Kelly, see Kelly&#39;s Substack <a href="https://ordinaryplots.substack.com/p/jane-meads-i-wonder-if-i-will-miss" rel="nofollow">Ordinary Plots</a>.</p>

<p>For more on Jane Mead, see <a href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/jane-mead" rel="nofollow">The Poetry Foundation</a>.</p>

<p>For the memorial service and <a href="https://www.janewmead.com/tribute" rel="nofollow">the tribute by Kathleen Finneran</a>, see Mead&#39;s personal webpage.</p>]]>
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  <title>Episode 104: Jane Zwart, I read that the moon is rusting</title>
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  <pubDate>Sat, 31 Jan 2026 09:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
  <author>Joanne Diaz and Abram Van Engen</author>
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  <itunes:season>8</itunes:season>
  <itunes:author>Joanne Diaz and Abram Van Engen</itunes:author>
  <itunes:subtitle>This episode brings together a collage of images to explore the meaning of time, the emergence of events from one to another, and the wonder of the unknown.</itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>24:28</itunes:duration>
  <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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  <description>This episode brings together a collage of images to explore the meaning of time, the emergence of events from one to another, and the wonder of the unknown.
For the full text of the poem, see here:
https://mail.readwildness.com/25/zwart-rusting
For more on the poet Jane Zwart, see her personal website:
https://www.janezwart.com/
To see her new book and purchase a copy, see "Oddest &amp;amp; Oldest &amp;amp; Saddest &amp;amp; Best" at Orison Books:
https://www.orisonbooks.com/product-page/oddest-oldest-saddest-best-poems-by-jane-zwart 
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  <itunes:keywords>guest on the show, 21st century, free verse, spirituality, children, wonder, surprise, grief and loss</itunes:keywords>
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    <![CDATA[<p>This episode brings together a collage of images to explore the meaning of time, the emergence of events from one to another, and the wonder of the unknown.</p>

<p>For the full text of the poem, see here:<br>
<a href="https://mail.readwildness.com/25/zwart-rusting" rel="nofollow">https://mail.readwildness.com/25/zwart-rusting</a></p>

<p>For more on the poet Jane Zwart, see her personal website:<br>
<a href="https://www.janezwart.com/" rel="nofollow">https://www.janezwart.com/</a></p>

<p>To see her new book and purchase a copy, see &quot;Oddest &amp; Oldest &amp; Saddest &amp; Best&quot; at Orison Books:<br>
<a href="https://www.orisonbooks.com/product-page/oddest-oldest-saddest-best-poems-by-jane-zwart" rel="nofollow">https://www.orisonbooks.com/product-page/oddest-oldest-saddest-best-poems-by-jane-zwart</a></p>]]>
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  <itunes:summary>
    <![CDATA[<p>This episode brings together a collage of images to explore the meaning of time, the emergence of events from one to another, and the wonder of the unknown.</p>

<p>For the full text of the poem, see here:<br>
<a href="https://mail.readwildness.com/25/zwart-rusting" rel="nofollow">https://mail.readwildness.com/25/zwart-rusting</a></p>

<p>For more on the poet Jane Zwart, see her personal website:<br>
<a href="https://www.janezwart.com/" rel="nofollow">https://www.janezwart.com/</a></p>

<p>To see her new book and purchase a copy, see &quot;Oddest &amp; Oldest &amp; Saddest &amp; Best&quot; at Orison Books:<br>
<a href="https://www.orisonbooks.com/product-page/oddest-oldest-saddest-best-poems-by-jane-zwart" rel="nofollow">https://www.orisonbooks.com/product-page/oddest-oldest-saddest-best-poems-by-jane-zwart</a></p>]]>
  </itunes:summary>
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<item>
  <title>Episode 90: N. Scott Momaday, The Delight Song of Tsoai-talee</title>
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  <pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2025 07:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
  <author>Joanne Diaz and Abram Van Engen</author>
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  <itunes:season>6</itunes:season>
  <itunes:author>Joanne Diaz and Abram Van Engen</itunes:author>
  <itunes:subtitle>This episode explores the incantation and mystic union of Momaday's famous delight poem, ending with a recorded recitation in his own rich voice.</itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>20:23</itunes:duration>
  <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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  <description>This episode explores the incantation and mystic union of Momaday's famous delight poem, ending with a recorded recitation in his own rich voice. We explain anaphora and explore its power, and we trace the links and connections from one thought to the next throughout the poem.
Special thanks to Universty of California Television (UCTV) for permission to share the audio of Momaday's reading. For the interview with Momaday from which this reading has been pulled, see "A Conversation with N. Scott Momaday -- Writer's Symposium by the Sea 2023 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PA3PZqeIuc)" on Youtube. "The Delight Song of Tsoai-talee" appears in In the Presence of the Sun by N. Scott Momaday. Copyright © 2009 University of New Mexico Press (https://www.unmpress.com/), 2009.
For the text of the poem, see The Poetry Foundation here (https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/46558/the-delight-song-of-tsoai-talee).
For more on Momaday, see his biography (https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/n-scott-momaday) at the Poetry Foundation.
</description>
  <itunes:keywords>21st century, free verse, Native American Heritage Month, spirituality, repetition or refrain, joy, wonder</itunes:keywords>
  <content:encoded>
    <![CDATA[<p>This episode explores the incantation and mystic union of Momaday&#39;s famous delight poem, ending with a recorded recitation in his own rich voice. We explain anaphora and explore its power, and we trace the links and connections from one thought to the next throughout the poem.</p>

<p>Special thanks to Universty of California Television (UCTV) for permission to share the audio of Momaday&#39;s reading. For the interview with Momaday from which this reading has been pulled, see &quot;<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PA3PZqeIuc" rel="nofollow">A Conversation with N. Scott Momaday -- Writer&#39;s Symposium by the Sea 2023</a>&quot; on Youtube. &quot;The Delight Song of Tsoai-talee&quot; appears in <em>In the Presence of the Sun</em> by N. Scott Momaday. Copyright © 2009 <a href="https://www.unmpress.com/" rel="nofollow">University of New Mexico Press</a>, 2009.</p>

<p>For the text of the poem, see <a href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/46558/the-delight-song-of-tsoai-talee" rel="nofollow">The Poetry Foundation here</a>.</p>

<p>For more on Momaday, see his <a href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/n-scott-momaday" rel="nofollow">biography</a> at the Poetry Foundation.</p>]]>
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  <itunes:summary>
    <![CDATA[<p>This episode explores the incantation and mystic union of Momaday&#39;s famous delight poem, ending with a recorded recitation in his own rich voice. We explain anaphora and explore its power, and we trace the links and connections from one thought to the next throughout the poem.</p>

<p>Special thanks to Universty of California Television (UCTV) for permission to share the audio of Momaday&#39;s reading. For the interview with Momaday from which this reading has been pulled, see &quot;<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PA3PZqeIuc" rel="nofollow">A Conversation with N. Scott Momaday -- Writer&#39;s Symposium by the Sea 2023</a>&quot; on Youtube. &quot;The Delight Song of Tsoai-talee&quot; appears in <em>In the Presence of the Sun</em> by N. Scott Momaday. Copyright © 2009 <a href="https://www.unmpress.com/" rel="nofollow">University of New Mexico Press</a>, 2009.</p>

<p>For the text of the poem, see <a href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/46558/the-delight-song-of-tsoai-talee" rel="nofollow">The Poetry Foundation here</a>.</p>

<p>For more on Momaday, see his <a href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/n-scott-momaday" rel="nofollow">biography</a> at the Poetry Foundation.</p>]]>
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  <title>Episode 68: W.S. Merwin, To the New Year</title>
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  <pubDate>Thu, 18 Jan 2024 15:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
  <author>Joanne Diaz and Abram Van Engen</author>
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  <itunes:season>6</itunes:season>
  <itunes:author>Joanne Diaz and Abram Van Engen</itunes:author>
  <itunes:subtitle>In the first episode of 2024, we read one of the great poets of the past century, W.S. Merwin, and his address to the new year, considering his attentiveness, his style, and his wondrous mood and mode of contemplation and surprise.</itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>22:48</itunes:duration>
  <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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  <description>In the first episode of 2024, we read one of the great poets of the past century, W.S. Merwin, and his address to the new year, considering his attentiveness, his style, and his wondrous mood and mode of contemplation and surprise. Picking up on the "radical hope" we discussed in Dimitrov's "Winter Solstice," we turn to Merwin's sense of what is untouched but still possible as he greets the new year.
In this episode, we quote a few pieces from The New Yorker. Here they are, plus a few other resources.
"The Aesthetic Insight of W.S. Merwin (https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/09/18/the-ascetic-insight-of-w-s-merwin)" by Dan Chiasson
"The Final Prophecy of W.S. Merwin (https://www.newyorker.com/culture/postscript/the-final-prophecy-of-w-s-merwin)" by Dan Chiasson
"The Palm Trees and Poetry of W.S. Merwin (https://www.newyorker.com/books/page-turner/the-palm-trees-and-poetry-of-w-s-merwin)" by Casey Cep
"When You Go Away: Remembering W.S. Merwin (https://www.newyorker.com/books/page-turner/when-you-go-away-remembering-w-s-merwin)" by Kevin Young
See also The Poetry Foundation (https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/w-s-merwin).
The poem originally appeared in Present Company (https://www.coppercanyonpress.org/books/present-company-by-w-s-merwin/) (Copper Canyon Press, 2005). Thanks to the Wylie Agency for granting us permission to read this poem on the episode. 
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  <itunes:keywords>21st century, Winter, Free verse, Ode, New Year’s Day, Poet laureate, Spirituality, Nature poetry, Hope, Wonder, Surprise</itunes:keywords>
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    <![CDATA[<p>In the first episode of 2024, we read one of the great poets of the past century, W.S. Merwin, and his address to the new year, considering his attentiveness, his style, and his wondrous mood and mode of contemplation and surprise. Picking up on the &quot;radical hope&quot; we discussed in Dimitrov&#39;s &quot;Winter Solstice,&quot; we turn to Merwin&#39;s sense of what is untouched but still possible as he greets the new year.</p>

<p>In this episode, we quote a few pieces from The New Yorker. Here they are, plus a few other resources.</p>

<p>&quot;<a href="https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/09/18/the-ascetic-insight-of-w-s-merwin" rel="nofollow">The Aesthetic Insight of W.S. Merwin</a>&quot; by Dan Chiasson</p>

<p>&quot;<a href="https://www.newyorker.com/culture/postscript/the-final-prophecy-of-w-s-merwin" rel="nofollow">The Final Prophecy of W.S. Merwin</a>&quot; by Dan Chiasson</p>

<p>&quot;<a href="https://www.newyorker.com/books/page-turner/the-palm-trees-and-poetry-of-w-s-merwin" rel="nofollow">The Palm Trees and Poetry of W.S. Merwin</a>&quot; by Casey Cep</p>

<p>&quot;<a href="https://www.newyorker.com/books/page-turner/when-you-go-away-remembering-w-s-merwin" rel="nofollow">When You Go Away: Remembering W.S. Merwin</a>&quot; by Kevin Young</p>

<p>See also <a href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/w-s-merwin" rel="nofollow">The Poetry Foundation</a>.</p>

<p>The poem originally appeared in <a href="https://www.coppercanyonpress.org/books/present-company-by-w-s-merwin/" rel="nofollow"><em>Present Company</em></a> (Copper Canyon Press, 2005). Thanks to the Wylie Agency for granting us permission to read this poem on the episode. </p>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<p>In the first episode of 2024, we read one of the great poets of the past century, W.S. Merwin, and his address to the new year, considering his attentiveness, his style, and his wondrous mood and mode of contemplation and surprise. Picking up on the &quot;radical hope&quot; we discussed in Dimitrov&#39;s &quot;Winter Solstice,&quot; we turn to Merwin&#39;s sense of what is untouched but still possible as he greets the new year.</p>

<p>In this episode, we quote a few pieces from The New Yorker. Here they are, plus a few other resources.</p>

<p>&quot;<a href="https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/09/18/the-ascetic-insight-of-w-s-merwin" rel="nofollow">The Aesthetic Insight of W.S. Merwin</a>&quot; by Dan Chiasson</p>

<p>&quot;<a href="https://www.newyorker.com/culture/postscript/the-final-prophecy-of-w-s-merwin" rel="nofollow">The Final Prophecy of W.S. Merwin</a>&quot; by Dan Chiasson</p>

<p>&quot;<a href="https://www.newyorker.com/books/page-turner/the-palm-trees-and-poetry-of-w-s-merwin" rel="nofollow">The Palm Trees and Poetry of W.S. Merwin</a>&quot; by Casey Cep</p>

<p>&quot;<a href="https://www.newyorker.com/books/page-turner/when-you-go-away-remembering-w-s-merwin" rel="nofollow">When You Go Away: Remembering W.S. Merwin</a>&quot; by Kevin Young</p>

<p>See also <a href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/w-s-merwin" rel="nofollow">The Poetry Foundation</a>.</p>

<p>The poem originally appeared in <a href="https://www.coppercanyonpress.org/books/present-company-by-w-s-merwin/" rel="nofollow"><em>Present Company</em></a> (Copper Canyon Press, 2005). Thanks to the Wylie Agency for granting us permission to read this poem on the episode. </p>]]>
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  <title>Episode 66: Katy Didden, The Priest Questions the Lava</title>
  <link>https://poetryforall.fireside.fm/66</link>
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  <pubDate>Tue, 21 Nov 2023 18:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
  <author>Joanne Diaz and Abram Van Engen</author>
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  <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
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  <itunes:author>Joanne Diaz and Abram Van Engen</itunes:author>
  <itunes:subtitle>In our discussion of "The Priest Questions the Lava," Katy describes her interest in the sentience of the natural world, her erasure of documentary texts, her interest in visual poetry, and the importance of poems that examine ethical and spiritual questions in an era of climate change. </itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>26:10</itunes:duration>
  <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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  <description>In our discussion of "The Priest Questions the Lava," Katy describes the sentience of the natural world, her erasure of documentary texts, her interest in visual poetry, and the importance of poems that examine ethical and spiritual questions in an era of climate change. 
To see Katy's erasure, click on the Academy of American Poets Poem-a-Day feature (https://poets.org/poem/ore-choir-priest-questions-lava).
Visit the Tupelo Press website to purchase a copy of Ore Choir: The Lava on Iceland (https://www.tupelopress.org/product/ore-choir-the-lava-on-iceland/).
The website includes a lesson plan for those who might want to introduce Katy's poetry into the classroom.
</description>
  <itunes:keywords>21st century, christianity, climate change, erasure, grief and loss, guest on the show, nature poetry, spirituality, visual poetry, word and image</itunes:keywords>
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    <![CDATA[<p>In our discussion of &quot;The Priest Questions the Lava,&quot; Katy describes the sentience of the natural world, her erasure of documentary texts, her interest in visual poetry, and the importance of poems that examine ethical and spiritual questions in an era of climate change. </p>

<p>To see Katy&#39;s erasure, click on the <a href="https://poets.org/poem/ore-choir-priest-questions-lava" rel="nofollow">Academy of American Poets Poem-a-Day feature</a>.</p>

<p>Visit the Tupelo Press website to purchase a copy of <em><a href="https://www.tupelopress.org/product/ore-choir-the-lava-on-iceland/" rel="nofollow">Ore Choir: The Lava on Iceland</a>.</em></p>

<p>The website includes a lesson plan for those who might want to introduce Katy&#39;s poetry into the classroom.</p>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<p>In our discussion of &quot;The Priest Questions the Lava,&quot; Katy describes the sentience of the natural world, her erasure of documentary texts, her interest in visual poetry, and the importance of poems that examine ethical and spiritual questions in an era of climate change. </p>

<p>To see Katy&#39;s erasure, click on the <a href="https://poets.org/poem/ore-choir-priest-questions-lava" rel="nofollow">Academy of American Poets Poem-a-Day feature</a>.</p>

<p>Visit the Tupelo Press website to purchase a copy of <em><a href="https://www.tupelopress.org/product/ore-choir-the-lava-on-iceland/" rel="nofollow">Ore Choir: The Lava on Iceland</a>.</em></p>

<p>The website includes a lesson plan for those who might want to introduce Katy&#39;s poetry into the classroom.</p>]]>
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<item>
  <title>Episode 63: Rumi, Colorless, Nameless, Free</title>
  <link>https://poetryforall.fireside.fm/63</link>
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  <pubDate>Tue, 29 Aug 2023 18:30:00 -0400</pubDate>
  <author>Joanne Diaz and Abram Van Engen</author>
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  <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
  <itunes:season>6</itunes:season>
  <itunes:author>Joanne Diaz and Abram Van Engen</itunes:author>
  <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, poet and translator Haleh Liza Gafori joins us to closely read and discuss a poem by Jalāl al-Dīn Muḥammad Rūmī  (1207-1273 CE), one of the greatest of all Sufi poets. We discuss the poetic constraints of the ghazal form, Rumi's encounters with the divine, and the significance of his friendship with Shams, a man who transformed his life and poetic practice.

</itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>29:56</itunes:duration>
  <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
  <itunes:image href="https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-images-2024/podcasts/images/d/d55a3bfc-6538-4214-882b-a389e71b4bf6/episodes/e/ef590d83-e80f-4bc6-8498-c781616fa252/cover.jpg?v=1"/>
  <description>Poet and translator Haleh Liza Gafori joins us to closely read and discuss a poem by Jalāl al-Dīn Muḥammad Rūmī  (1207-1273 CE), one of the greatest of all Sufi poets. We discuss the poetic constraints of the ghazal form, Rumi's encounters with the divine, and the significance of his friendship with Shams, a man who transformed his life and poetic practice.
Haleh Liza Gafori's translations of Rumi's poetry appear in Gold (https://www.nyrb.com/products/gold) (NYRB Press, 2022). 
You can learn more about her work as a vocalist, poet, translator and performer here (https://www.halehliza.com/). 
To learn more about Rumi, visit the Poetry Foundation website (https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/jalal-al-din-rumi).
Cover photo from The Walters Art Museum  (https://art.thewalters.org/detail/77715/illuminated-preface-to-the-second-book-of-the-collection-of-poems-masnavi-2/) 
</description>
  <itunes:keywords>13th century, ghazal, guest on the show, islam, joy, poetry in translation, restlessness, rhymed verse, spirituality, surprise, wonder, world poetry</itunes:keywords>
  <content:encoded>
    <![CDATA[<p>Poet and translator Haleh Liza Gafori joins us to closely read and discuss a poem by Jalāl al-Dīn Muḥammad Rūmī  (1207-1273 CE), one of the greatest of all Sufi poets. We discuss the poetic constraints of the ghazal form, Rumi&#39;s encounters with the divine, and the significance of his friendship with Shams, a man who transformed his life and poetic practice.</p>

<p>Haleh Liza Gafori&#39;s translations of Rumi&#39;s poetry appear in <a href="https://www.nyrb.com/products/gold" rel="nofollow"><em>Gold</em></a> (NYRB Press, 2022). </p>

<p>You can learn more about her work as a vocalist, poet, translator and performer <a href="https://www.halehliza.com/" rel="nofollow">here</a>. </p>

<p>To learn more about Rumi, visit the <a href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/jalal-al-din-rumi" rel="nofollow">Poetry Foundation website</a>.</p>

<p>Cover photo from <a href="https://art.thewalters.org/detail/77715/illuminated-preface-to-the-second-book-of-the-collection-of-poems-masnavi-2/" rel="nofollow">The Walters Art Museum </a></p>]]>
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  <itunes:summary>
    <![CDATA[<p>Poet and translator Haleh Liza Gafori joins us to closely read and discuss a poem by Jalāl al-Dīn Muḥammad Rūmī  (1207-1273 CE), one of the greatest of all Sufi poets. We discuss the poetic constraints of the ghazal form, Rumi&#39;s encounters with the divine, and the significance of his friendship with Shams, a man who transformed his life and poetic practice.</p>

<p>Haleh Liza Gafori&#39;s translations of Rumi&#39;s poetry appear in <a href="https://www.nyrb.com/products/gold" rel="nofollow"><em>Gold</em></a> (NYRB Press, 2022). </p>

<p>You can learn more about her work as a vocalist, poet, translator and performer <a href="https://www.halehliza.com/" rel="nofollow">here</a>. </p>

<p>To learn more about Rumi, visit the <a href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/jalal-al-din-rumi" rel="nofollow">Poetry Foundation website</a>.</p>

<p>Cover photo from <a href="https://art.thewalters.org/detail/77715/illuminated-preface-to-the-second-book-of-the-collection-of-poems-masnavi-2/" rel="nofollow">The Walters Art Museum </a></p>]]>
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  <title>Episode 54: Carl Phillips, To Autumn</title>
  <link>https://poetryforall.fireside.fm/54</link>
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  <pubDate>Mon, 21 Nov 2022 10:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
  <author>Joanne Diaz and Abram Van Engen</author>
  <enclosure url="https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/d55a3bfc-6538-4214-882b-a389e71b4bf6/fa72b9f5-3c9f-4db2-83f9-1e0618d86161.mp3" length="18352960" type="audio/mpeg"/>
  <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
  <itunes:season>5</itunes:season>
  <itunes:author>Joanne Diaz and Abram Van Engen</itunes:author>
  <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, we talk with David Baker about "To Autumn" by Carl Phillips, exploring the way Phillips masterfully achieves a sense of intimacy and restlessness in a lyric ode that tosses between two parts while incorporating the sonnet tradition.</itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>24:47</itunes:duration>
  <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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  <description>In this episode, we talk with David Baker about "To Autumn" by Carl Phillips, exploring the way Phillips masterfully achieves a sense of intimacy and restlessness in a lyric ode that tosses between two parts while incorporating the sonnet tradition.
For more on Carl Phillips, please visit the Poetry Foundation (https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/carl-phillips).
For more on David Baker, please visit the Poetry Foundation (https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/david-baker).
"To Autumn" has been read from Carl Phillips' latest book of poetry, Then the War: And Selected Poems, 2007-2020 (https://www.amazon.com/Then-War-Selected-Poems-2007-2020/dp/0374603766).
The latest book by Carl Phillips is a collection of essays called My Trade Is Mystery. Purchase at Yale University Press (https://yalebooks.yale.edu/book/9780300257878/my-trade-is-mystery/) or Amazon (https://www.amazon.com/My-Trade-Mystery-Meditations-Writing/dp/0300257872) or wherever you get your books. 
</description>
  <itunes:keywords>21st century, autumn, black history month, city, free verse, guest on the show, intimacy, lgbtqia month, nature poetry, night, ode, restlessness, spirituality</itunes:keywords>
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    <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we talk with David Baker about &quot;To Autumn&quot; by Carl Phillips, exploring the way Phillips masterfully achieves a sense of intimacy and restlessness in a lyric ode that tosses between two parts while incorporating the sonnet tradition.</p>

<p>For more on Carl Phillips, please visit the <a href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/carl-phillips" rel="nofollow">Poetry Foundation</a>.</p>

<p>For more on David Baker, please visit the <a href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/david-baker" rel="nofollow">Poetry Foundation</a>.</p>

<p>&quot;To Autumn&quot; has been read from Carl Phillips&#39; latest book of poetry, <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Then-War-Selected-Poems-2007-2020/dp/0374603766" rel="nofollow">Then the War: And Selected Poems, 2007-2020</a>.</p>

<p>The latest book by Carl Phillips is a collection of essays called <em>My Trade Is Mystery</em>. Purchase at <a href="https://yalebooks.yale.edu/book/9780300257878/my-trade-is-mystery/" rel="nofollow">Yale University Press</a> or <a href="https://www.amazon.com/My-Trade-Mystery-Meditations-Writing/dp/0300257872" rel="nofollow">Amazon</a> or wherever you get your books.</p>]]>
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  <itunes:summary>
    <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we talk with David Baker about &quot;To Autumn&quot; by Carl Phillips, exploring the way Phillips masterfully achieves a sense of intimacy and restlessness in a lyric ode that tosses between two parts while incorporating the sonnet tradition.</p>

<p>For more on Carl Phillips, please visit the <a href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/carl-phillips" rel="nofollow">Poetry Foundation</a>.</p>

<p>For more on David Baker, please visit the <a href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/david-baker" rel="nofollow">Poetry Foundation</a>.</p>

<p>&quot;To Autumn&quot; has been read from Carl Phillips&#39; latest book of poetry, <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Then-War-Selected-Poems-2007-2020/dp/0374603766" rel="nofollow">Then the War: And Selected Poems, 2007-2020</a>.</p>

<p>The latest book by Carl Phillips is a collection of essays called <em>My Trade Is Mystery</em>. Purchase at <a href="https://yalebooks.yale.edu/book/9780300257878/my-trade-is-mystery/" rel="nofollow">Yale University Press</a> or <a href="https://www.amazon.com/My-Trade-Mystery-Meditations-Writing/dp/0300257872" rel="nofollow">Amazon</a> or wherever you get your books.</p>]]>
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  <title>Episode 53: Carter Revard, What the Eagle Fan Says</title>
  <link>https://poetryforall.fireside.fm/53</link>
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  <pubDate>Mon, 07 Nov 2022 10:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
  <author>Joanne Diaz and Abram Van Engen</author>
  <enclosure url="https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/d55a3bfc-6538-4214-882b-a389e71b4bf6/820e9c0d-2600-4c00-b573-5ffefcc56e86.mp3" length="20914212" type="audio/mpeg"/>
  <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
  <itunes:season>5</itunes:season>
  <itunes:author>Joanne Diaz and Abram Van Engen</itunes:author>
  <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, we focus on the life and work of Carter Revard, an Osage poet whose medieval scholarship informs the structure of "What the Eagle Fan Says." Jessica Rosenfeld, a professor of medieval literature at Washington University in St. Louis, joins us for this discussion. </itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>25:38</itunes:duration>
  <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
  <itunes:image href="https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-images-2024/podcasts/images/d/d55a3bfc-6538-4214-882b-a389e71b4bf6/episodes/8/820e9c0d-2600-4c00-b573-5ffefcc56e86/cover.jpg?v=1"/>
  <description>In this episode, we focus on the life and work of Carter Revard, an Osage poet whose medieval scholarship informs the structure of "What the Eagle Fan Says." Jessica Rosenfeld, a professor of medieval literature at Washington University in St. Louis, joins us for this discussion. 
Carter Revard was a prolific poet and scholar. To learn more about his work, click here (https://source.wustl.edu/2022/01/obituary-carter-revard-of-arts-sciences-90/).
"What the Eagle Fan Says" was published in How the Songs Came Down (https://www.saltpublishing.com/products/how-the-songs-come-down-9781844710645) (Salt Publishing, 2005).
To learn more about accentual verse, read this brief treatment (https://danagioia.com/essays/writing-and-reading/accentual-verse/) by poet Dana Gioia.  
</description>
  <itunes:keywords>20th century, alliterative verse, guest on the show, native american heritage month, nature poetry, spirituality</itunes:keywords>
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    <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we focus on the life and work of Carter Revard, an Osage poet whose medieval scholarship informs the structure of &quot;What the Eagle Fan Says.&quot; Jessica Rosenfeld, a professor of medieval literature at Washington University in St. Louis, joins us for this discussion. </p>

<p>Carter Revard was a prolific poet and scholar. To learn more about his work, click <a href="https://source.wustl.edu/2022/01/obituary-carter-revard-of-arts-sciences-90/" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p>

<p>&quot;What the Eagle Fan Says&quot; was published in <em><a href="https://www.saltpublishing.com/products/how-the-songs-come-down-9781844710645" rel="nofollow">How the Songs Came Down</a></em> (Salt Publishing, 2005).</p>

<p>To learn more about accentual verse, read <a href="https://danagioia.com/essays/writing-and-reading/accentual-verse/" rel="nofollow">this brief treatment</a> by poet Dana Gioia. </p>]]>
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  <itunes:summary>
    <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we focus on the life and work of Carter Revard, an Osage poet whose medieval scholarship informs the structure of &quot;What the Eagle Fan Says.&quot; Jessica Rosenfeld, a professor of medieval literature at Washington University in St. Louis, joins us for this discussion. </p>

<p>Carter Revard was a prolific poet and scholar. To learn more about his work, click <a href="https://source.wustl.edu/2022/01/obituary-carter-revard-of-arts-sciences-90/" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p>

<p>&quot;What the Eagle Fan Says&quot; was published in <em><a href="https://www.saltpublishing.com/products/how-the-songs-come-down-9781844710645" rel="nofollow">How the Songs Came Down</a></em> (Salt Publishing, 2005).</p>

<p>To learn more about accentual verse, read <a href="https://danagioia.com/essays/writing-and-reading/accentual-verse/" rel="nofollow">this brief treatment</a> by poet Dana Gioia. </p>]]>
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  <title>Episode 50: Rafael Campo, Primary Care</title>
  <link>https://poetryforall.fireside.fm/50</link>
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  <pubDate>Mon, 26 Sep 2022 10:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
  <author>Joanne Diaz and Abram Van Engen</author>
  <enclosure url="https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/d55a3bfc-6538-4214-882b-a389e71b4bf6/54ff6502-605c-4e66-8030-40d7e5b6cd77.mp3" length="17486930" type="audio/mpeg"/>
  <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
  <itunes:season>5</itunes:season>
  <itunes:author>Joanne Diaz and Abram Van Engen</itunes:author>
  <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, we discuss how Rafael Campo, a practicing physician, uses blank verse to explore the experience of illness and suffering. </itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>22:24</itunes:duration>
  <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
  <itunes:image href="https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-images-2024/podcasts/images/d/d55a3bfc-6538-4214-882b-a389e71b4bf6/episodes/5/54ff6502-605c-4e66-8030-40d7e5b6cd77/cover.jpg?v=1"/>
  <description>In this episode, we discuss how Rafael Campo, a practicing physician, uses blank verse to explore the experience of illness and suffering.
Thanks to the Georges Borchardt, Inc. for granting us permission to read this poem. You can find "Primary Care" in Alternative Medicine (Duke University Press, 2013).  
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  <itunes:keywords>21st century, aging, blank verse, body in pain, gratitude, hispanic heritage month, repetition or refrain, science and medicine, spirituality, wonder</itunes:keywords>
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    <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss how Rafael Campo, a practicing physician, uses blank verse to explore the experience of illness and suffering.</p>

<p>Thanks to the Georges Borchardt, Inc. for granting us permission to read this poem. You can find &quot;Primary Care&quot; in <em>Alternative Medicine</em> (Duke University Press, 2013). </p><p>Links:</p><ul><li><a title="Campo reads Primary Care" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hltjf8H3WJI">Campo reads Primary Care</a></li><li><a title="Campo Author Page" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.rafaelcampo.com/">Campo Author Page</a></li><li><a title="Campo at the Poetry Foundation" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/rafael-campo">Campo at the Poetry Foundation</a></li></ul>]]>
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  <itunes:summary>
    <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss how Rafael Campo, a practicing physician, uses blank verse to explore the experience of illness and suffering.</p>

<p>Thanks to the Georges Borchardt, Inc. for granting us permission to read this poem. You can find &quot;Primary Care&quot; in <em>Alternative Medicine</em> (Duke University Press, 2013). </p><p>Links:</p><ul><li><a title="Campo reads Primary Care" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hltjf8H3WJI">Campo reads Primary Care</a></li><li><a title="Campo Author Page" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.rafaelcampo.com/">Campo Author Page</a></li><li><a title="Campo at the Poetry Foundation" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/rafael-campo">Campo at the Poetry Foundation</a></li></ul>]]>
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  <title>Episode 48: Joy Harjo, An American Sunrise</title>
  <link>https://poetryforall.fireside.fm/48</link>
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  <pubDate>Thu, 28 Apr 2022 12:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
  <author>Joanne Diaz and Abram Van Engen</author>
  <enclosure url="https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/d55a3bfc-6538-4214-882b-a389e71b4bf6/ccf1e90f-4821-4671-8253-cafdd084830f.mp3" length="17510463" type="audio/mpeg"/>
  <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
  <itunes:season>4</itunes:season>
  <itunes:author>Joanne Diaz and Abram Van Engen</itunes:author>
  <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, we examine The Golden Shovel form and discuss the idea of "survivance" through the work of Muscogee (Creek) poet Joy Harjo, the 23rd Poet Laureate of the United States.</itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>21:47</itunes:duration>
  <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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  <description>In this episode, we examine The Golden Shovel form and discuss the idea of "survivance" through the work of Muscogee (Creek) poet Joy Harjo, the 23rd Poet Laureate of the United States.
You can find the text of "An American Sunrise" here (https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poetrymagazine/poems/92063/an-american-sunrise), though this is an earlier version of the poem. The final version appears in her finished book of the same title, which you can find here (https://www.joyharjo.com/book/an-american-sunrise).
For an introduction to The Golden Shovel form, see here (https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poetrymagazine/articles/92023/introduction-586e948ad9af8).
</description>
  <itunes:keywords>21st century, anger, golden shovel, grief and loss, hope, joy, native american heritage month, poet laureate, social justice and advocacy, spirituality</itunes:keywords>
  <content:encoded>
    <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we examine The Golden Shovel form and discuss the idea of &quot;survivance&quot; through the work of Muscogee (Creek) poet Joy Harjo, the 23rd Poet Laureate of the United States.</p>

<p>You can find the text of &quot;An American Sunrise&quot; <a href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poetrymagazine/poems/92063/an-american-sunrise" rel="nofollow">here</a>, though this is an earlier version of the poem. The final version appears in her finished book of the same title, which you can find <a href="https://www.joyharjo.com/book/an-american-sunrise" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p>

<p>For an introduction to The Golden Shovel form, see <a href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poetrymagazine/articles/92023/introduction-586e948ad9af8" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p><p>Links:</p><ul><li><a title="Joy Harjo Official Site - Joy Harjo" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.joyharjo.com/">Joy Harjo Official Site - Joy Harjo</a></li><li><a title="An American Sunrise by Joy Harjo | Poetry Magazine" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poetrymagazine/poems/92063/an-american-sunrise">An American Sunrise by Joy Harjo | Poetry Magazine</a></li><li><a title="An American Sunrise - Joy Harjo" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.joyharjo.com/book/an-american-sunrise">An American Sunrise - Joy Harjo</a></li><li><a title="Introduction: The Golden Shovel by Don Share | Poetry Magazine" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poetrymagazine/articles/92023/introduction-586e948ad9af8">Introduction: The Golden Shovel by Don Share | Poetry Magazine</a></li></ul>]]>
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  <itunes:summary>
    <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we examine The Golden Shovel form and discuss the idea of &quot;survivance&quot; through the work of Muscogee (Creek) poet Joy Harjo, the 23rd Poet Laureate of the United States.</p>

<p>You can find the text of &quot;An American Sunrise&quot; <a href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poetrymagazine/poems/92063/an-american-sunrise" rel="nofollow">here</a>, though this is an earlier version of the poem. The final version appears in her finished book of the same title, which you can find <a href="https://www.joyharjo.com/book/an-american-sunrise" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p>

<p>For an introduction to The Golden Shovel form, see <a href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poetrymagazine/articles/92023/introduction-586e948ad9af8" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p><p>Links:</p><ul><li><a title="Joy Harjo Official Site - Joy Harjo" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.joyharjo.com/">Joy Harjo Official Site - Joy Harjo</a></li><li><a title="An American Sunrise by Joy Harjo | Poetry Magazine" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poetrymagazine/poems/92063/an-american-sunrise">An American Sunrise by Joy Harjo | Poetry Magazine</a></li><li><a title="An American Sunrise - Joy Harjo" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.joyharjo.com/book/an-american-sunrise">An American Sunrise - Joy Harjo</a></li><li><a title="Introduction: The Golden Shovel by Don Share | Poetry Magazine" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poetrymagazine/articles/92023/introduction-586e948ad9af8">Introduction: The Golden Shovel by Don Share | Poetry Magazine</a></li></ul>]]>
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  <title>Episode 47: Walt Whitman, Leaves of Grass</title>
  <link>https://poetryforall.fireside.fm/47</link>
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  <pubDate>Fri, 22 Apr 2022 12:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
  <author>Joanne Diaz and Abram Van Engen</author>
  <enclosure url="https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/d55a3bfc-6538-4214-882b-a389e71b4bf6/ff2b3c76-2f14-4292-87a3-41e34909d0ea.mp3" length="19625015" type="audio/mpeg"/>
  <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
  <itunes:season>4</itunes:season>
  <itunes:author>Joanne Diaz and Abram Van Engen</itunes:author>
  <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, Christopher Hanlon joins us to discuss an excerpt from Walt Whitman's Leaves of Grass. We discuss the poem's prophetic voice, its patterns of repetition, the connective tissue that binds his ideas and invites readers in, and the cultural context in which Whitman produced his work.</itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>26:39</itunes:duration>
  <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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  <description>In this episode, Christopher Hanlon joins us to discuss an excerpt from Walt Whitman's Leaves of Grass. We discuss the poem's prophetic voice, its patterns of repetition, the connective tissue that binds his ideas and invites readers in, and the cultural context in which Whitman produced his work.
To read the text of this poem, click here (https://poets.org/poem/song-myself-6-child-said-what-grass) or see below:
To learn more about Walt Whitman and his work, visit the Walt Whitman Archive (https://whitmanarchive.org/), a magnificent compendium of information about Whitman's life, cultural context, and editions of Leaves of Grass.
To learn more about scholar Christopher Hanlon, click here (https://newcollege.asu.edu/christopher-hanlon).
Text from Leaves of Grass:
A child said What is the grass? fetching it to me with full hands; 
How could I answer the child? I do not know what it is any more than he. 
I guess it must be the flag of my disposition, out of hopeful green stuff woven. 
Or I guess it is the handkerchief of the Lord, 
A scented gift and remembrancer designedly dropt, 
Bearing the owner's name someway in the corners, that we may see and remark, and say Whose? 
Or I guess the grass is itself a child, the produced babe of the vegetation. 
Or I guess it is a uniform hieroglyphic, 
And it means, Sprouting alike in broad zones and narrow zones, 
Growing among black folks as among white, 
Kanuck, Tuckahoe, Congressman, Cuff, I give them the same, I receive them the same. 
And now it seems to me the beautiful uncut hair of graves. 
Tenderly will I use you curling grass, 
It may be you transpire from the breasts of young men, 
It may be you are from old people, or from offspring taken,
It may be if I had known them I would have loved them, soon out of their mothers' laps, 
And here you are the mothers' laps. 
This grass is very dark to be from the white heads of old mothers, 
Darker than the colorless beards of old men, 
Dark to come from under the faint red roofs of mouths. 
O I perceive after all so many uttering tongues, 
And I perceive they do not come from the roofs of mouths for nothing. 
I wish I could translate the hints about the dead young men and women, 
And the hints about old men and mothers, and the offspring taken soon out of their laps. 
What do you think has become of the young and old men? 
And what do you think has become of the women and children? 
They are alive and well somewhere, 
The smallest sprout shows there is really no death, 
And if ever there was it led forward life, and does not wait at the end to arrest it, 
And ceas'd the moment life appear'd. 
All goes onward and outward, nothing collapses, 
And to die is different from what any one supposed, and luckier. 
</description>
  <itunes:keywords>19th century, ars poetica, children, free verse, guest on the show, nature poetry, repetition or refrain, spirituality, wonder</itunes:keywords>
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    <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Christopher Hanlon joins us to discuss an excerpt from Walt Whitman&#39;s Leaves of Grass. We discuss the poem&#39;s prophetic voice, its patterns of repetition, the connective tissue that binds his ideas and invites readers in, and the cultural context in which Whitman produced his work.</p>

<p>To read the text of this poem, click <a href="https://poets.org/poem/song-myself-6-child-said-what-grass" rel="nofollow">here</a> or see below:</p>

<p>To learn more about Walt Whitman and his work, visit the <a href="https://whitmanarchive.org/" rel="nofollow">Walt Whitman Archive</a>, a magnificent compendium of information about Whitman&#39;s life, cultural context, and editions of <em>Leaves of Grass.</em></p>

<p>To learn more about scholar Christopher Hanlon, click <a href="https://newcollege.asu.edu/christopher-hanlon" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p>

<p><strong>Text from Leaves of Grass:</strong></p>

<p>A child said <em>What is the grass?</em> fetching it to me with full hands; <br>
How could I answer the child? I do not know what it is any more than he. <br>
I guess it must be the flag of my disposition, out of hopeful green stuff woven. </p>

<p>Or I guess it is the handkerchief of the Lord, <br>
A scented gift and remembrancer designedly dropt, <br>
Bearing the owner&#39;s name someway in the corners, that we may see and remark, and say <em>Whose?</em> </p>

<p>Or I guess the grass is itself a child, the produced babe of the vegetation. </p>

<p>Or I guess it is a uniform hieroglyphic, <br>
And it means, Sprouting alike in broad zones and narrow zones, <br>
Growing among black folks as among white, <br>
Kanuck, Tuckahoe, Congressman, Cuff, I give them the same, I receive them the same. </p>

<p>And now it seems to me the beautiful uncut hair of graves. </p>

<p>Tenderly will I use you curling grass, <br>
It may be you transpire from the breasts of young men, <br>
It may be you are from old people, or from offspring taken,<br>
It may be if I had known them I would have loved them, soon out of their mothers&#39; laps, <br>
And here you are the mothers&#39; laps. </p>

<p>This grass is very dark to be from the white heads of old mothers, <br>
Darker than the colorless beards of old men, <br>
Dark to come from under the faint red roofs of mouths. </p>

<p>O I perceive after all so many uttering tongues, <br>
And I perceive they do not come from the roofs of mouths for nothing. </p>

<p>I wish I could translate the hints about the dead young men and women, <br>
And the hints about old men and mothers, and the offspring taken soon out of their laps. <br>
What do you think has become of the young and old men? <br>
And what do you think has become of the women and children? </p>

<p>They are alive and well somewhere, <br>
The smallest sprout shows there is really no death, <br>
And if ever there was it led forward life, and does not wait at the end to arrest it, <br>
And ceas&#39;d the moment life appear&#39;d. </p>

<p>All goes onward and outward, nothing collapses, <br>
And to die is different from what any one supposed, and luckier.</p>]]>
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  <itunes:summary>
    <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Christopher Hanlon joins us to discuss an excerpt from Walt Whitman&#39;s Leaves of Grass. We discuss the poem&#39;s prophetic voice, its patterns of repetition, the connective tissue that binds his ideas and invites readers in, and the cultural context in which Whitman produced his work.</p>

<p>To read the text of this poem, click <a href="https://poets.org/poem/song-myself-6-child-said-what-grass" rel="nofollow">here</a> or see below:</p>

<p>To learn more about Walt Whitman and his work, visit the <a href="https://whitmanarchive.org/" rel="nofollow">Walt Whitman Archive</a>, a magnificent compendium of information about Whitman&#39;s life, cultural context, and editions of <em>Leaves of Grass.</em></p>

<p>To learn more about scholar Christopher Hanlon, click <a href="https://newcollege.asu.edu/christopher-hanlon" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p>

<p><strong>Text from Leaves of Grass:</strong></p>

<p>A child said <em>What is the grass?</em> fetching it to me with full hands; <br>
How could I answer the child? I do not know what it is any more than he. <br>
I guess it must be the flag of my disposition, out of hopeful green stuff woven. </p>

<p>Or I guess it is the handkerchief of the Lord, <br>
A scented gift and remembrancer designedly dropt, <br>
Bearing the owner&#39;s name someway in the corners, that we may see and remark, and say <em>Whose?</em> </p>

<p>Or I guess the grass is itself a child, the produced babe of the vegetation. </p>

<p>Or I guess it is a uniform hieroglyphic, <br>
And it means, Sprouting alike in broad zones and narrow zones, <br>
Growing among black folks as among white, <br>
Kanuck, Tuckahoe, Congressman, Cuff, I give them the same, I receive them the same. </p>

<p>And now it seems to me the beautiful uncut hair of graves. </p>

<p>Tenderly will I use you curling grass, <br>
It may be you transpire from the breasts of young men, <br>
It may be you are from old people, or from offspring taken,<br>
It may be if I had known them I would have loved them, soon out of their mothers&#39; laps, <br>
And here you are the mothers&#39; laps. </p>

<p>This grass is very dark to be from the white heads of old mothers, <br>
Darker than the colorless beards of old men, <br>
Dark to come from under the faint red roofs of mouths. </p>

<p>O I perceive after all so many uttering tongues, <br>
And I perceive they do not come from the roofs of mouths for nothing. </p>

<p>I wish I could translate the hints about the dead young men and women, <br>
And the hints about old men and mothers, and the offspring taken soon out of their laps. <br>
What do you think has become of the young and old men? <br>
And what do you think has become of the women and children? </p>

<p>They are alive and well somewhere, <br>
The smallest sprout shows there is really no death, <br>
And if ever there was it led forward life, and does not wait at the end to arrest it, <br>
And ceas&#39;d the moment life appear&#39;d. </p>

<p>All goes onward and outward, nothing collapses, <br>
And to die is different from what any one supposed, and luckier.</p>]]>
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  <title>Episode 43: Margaret Noodin, What the Peepers Say</title>
  <link>https://poetryforall.fireside.fm/43</link>
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  <pubDate>Wed, 02 Mar 2022 15:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
  <author>Joanne Diaz and Abram Van Engen</author>
  <enclosure url="https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/d55a3bfc-6538-4214-882b-a389e71b4bf6/ce4a6484-817c-4f46-a044-399bd232d31a.mp3" length="18291331" type="audio/mpeg"/>
  <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
  <itunes:season>4</itunes:season>
  <itunes:author>Joanne Diaz and Abram Van Engen</itunes:author>
  <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, Margaret Noodin joins us to discuss her poem "What the Peepers Say." In our conversation, we talk about Margaret's writing in both Anishinaabemowin and English, her attention to sounds and rhythms, and what the peeper--a tiny springtime frog--can teach us about presence and listening.</itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>24:22</itunes:duration>
  <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
  <itunes:image href="https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-images-2024/podcasts/images/d/d55a3bfc-6538-4214-882b-a389e71b4bf6/episodes/c/ce4a6484-817c-4f46-a044-399bd232d31a/cover.jpg?v=1"/>
  <description>In this episode, Margaret Noodin joins us to discuss her poem "What the Peepers Say." In our conversation, we talk about Margaret's writing in both Anishinaabemowin and English, her attention to sounds and rhythms, and what the peeper--a tiny springtime frog--can teach us about presence and listening.
Margaret Noodin (https://uwm.edu/english/our-people/noodin-margaret/) is the author of two bilingual collections of poetry in both Anishinaabemowin and English: Weweni (https://www.wsupress.wayne.edu/books/detail/weweni) and What the Chickadee Knows (https://www.wsupress.wayne.edu/books/detail/what-chickadee-knows#:~:text=What%20the%20Chickadee%20Knows%20is,one%20another%20on%20facing%20pages.). She is a professor of English and American Indian Studies at the University of Wisconsin–Milwaukee, where she also serves as director of the Electa Quinney Institute for American Indian Education. 
To learn more about Ahishinaabemowin, visit ojibwe.net (https://ojibwe.net/).
To hear the sound of the spring peeper, click on this link (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_L7Ha6uwQA). 
Photo of Margaret Noodin © Troye Fox.
</description>
  <itunes:keywords>21st century, alliterative verse, free verse, guest on the show, native american heritage month, nature poetry, poetry in translation, repetition or refrain, spirituality, spring, wonder</itunes:keywords>
  <content:encoded>
    <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Margaret Noodin joins us to discuss her poem &quot;What the Peepers Say.&quot; In our conversation, we talk about Margaret&#39;s writing in both Anishinaabemowin and English, her attention to sounds and rhythms, and what the peeper--a tiny springtime frog--can teach us about presence and listening.</p>

<p><a href="https://uwm.edu/english/our-people/noodin-margaret/" rel="nofollow">Margaret Noodin</a> is the author of two bilingual collections of poetry in both Anishinaabemowin and English: <em><a href="https://www.wsupress.wayne.edu/books/detail/weweni" rel="nofollow">Weweni</a></em> and <em><a href="https://www.wsupress.wayne.edu/books/detail/what-chickadee-knows#:%7E:text=What%20the%20Chickadee%20Knows%20is,one%20another%20on%20facing%20pages." rel="nofollow">What the Chickadee Knows</a>.</em> She is a professor of English and American Indian Studies at the University of Wisconsin–Milwaukee, where she also serves as director of the Electa Quinney Institute for American Indian Education. </p>

<p>To learn more about Ahishinaabemowin, visit <a href="https://ojibwe.net/" rel="nofollow">ojibwe.net</a>.</p>

<p>To hear the sound of the spring peeper, click on <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_L7Ha6uwQA" rel="nofollow">this link</a>. </p>

<p>Photo of Margaret Noodin © Troye Fox.</p>]]>
  </content:encoded>
  <itunes:summary>
    <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Margaret Noodin joins us to discuss her poem &quot;What the Peepers Say.&quot; In our conversation, we talk about Margaret&#39;s writing in both Anishinaabemowin and English, her attention to sounds and rhythms, and what the peeper--a tiny springtime frog--can teach us about presence and listening.</p>

<p><a href="https://uwm.edu/english/our-people/noodin-margaret/" rel="nofollow">Margaret Noodin</a> is the author of two bilingual collections of poetry in both Anishinaabemowin and English: <em><a href="https://www.wsupress.wayne.edu/books/detail/weweni" rel="nofollow">Weweni</a></em> and <em><a href="https://www.wsupress.wayne.edu/books/detail/what-chickadee-knows#:%7E:text=What%20the%20Chickadee%20Knows%20is,one%20another%20on%20facing%20pages." rel="nofollow">What the Chickadee Knows</a>.</em> She is a professor of English and American Indian Studies at the University of Wisconsin–Milwaukee, where she also serves as director of the Electa Quinney Institute for American Indian Education. </p>

<p>To learn more about Ahishinaabemowin, visit <a href="https://ojibwe.net/" rel="nofollow">ojibwe.net</a>.</p>

<p>To hear the sound of the spring peeper, click on <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_L7Ha6uwQA" rel="nofollow">this link</a>. </p>

<p>Photo of Margaret Noodin © Troye Fox.</p>]]>
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<item>
  <title>Episode 31: Jane Kenyon, Twilight: After Haying</title>
  <link>https://poetryforall.fireside.fm/31</link>
  <guid isPermaLink="false">ba31a9ae-2e22-4739-88b6-2227a917e5ec</guid>
  <pubDate>Wed, 27 Oct 2021 11:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
  <author>Joanne Diaz and Abram Van Engen</author>
  <enclosure url="https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/d55a3bfc-6538-4214-882b-a389e71b4bf6/ba31a9ae-2e22-4739-88b6-2227a917e5ec.mp3" length="13463971" type="audio/mpeg"/>
  <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
  <itunes:season>3</itunes:season>
  <itunes:author>Joanne Diaz and Abram Van Engen</itunes:author>
  <itunes:subtitle>This week we take a closer look at another autumn poem, this one by Jane Kenyon from her wonderful book Otherwise: New and Selected Poems. Kenyon builds from and transforms the same tradition of the autumn ode we examined last week with John Keats.</itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>16:48</itunes:duration>
  <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
  <itunes:image href="https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-images-2024/podcasts/images/d/d55a3bfc-6538-4214-882b-a389e71b4bf6/episodes/b/ba31a9ae-2e22-4739-88b6-2227a917e5ec/cover.jpg?v=2"/>
  <description>This week we take a closer look at another autumn poem, this one by Jane Kenyon from her wonderful book Otherwise: New and Selected Poems. Kenyon builds from and transforms the same tradition of the autumn ode we examined last week with John Keats.
Thank you to Graywolf Press for permission to read this poem from Otherwise: New and Selected Poems (https://www.graywolfpress.org/books/otherwise) by Jane Kenyon.
Click here for the full text of Twilight: After Haying (https://poets.org/poem/twilight-after-haying).
See the Poetry Foundation for more on Jane Kenyon (https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/jane-kenyon). 
</description>
  <itunes:keywords>20th century, autumn, christianity, free verse, intimacy, nature poetry, night, spirituality</itunes:keywords>
  <content:encoded>
    <![CDATA[<p>This week we take a closer look at another autumn poem, this one by Jane Kenyon from her wonderful book Otherwise: New and Selected Poems. Kenyon builds from and transforms the same tradition of the autumn ode we examined last week with John Keats.</p>

<p>Thank you to Graywolf Press for permission to read this poem from <a href="https://www.graywolfpress.org/books/otherwise" rel="nofollow">Otherwise: New and Selected Poems</a> by Jane Kenyon.</p>

<p>Click here for the full text of <a href="https://poets.org/poem/twilight-after-haying" rel="nofollow">Twilight: After Haying</a>.</p>

<p>See the Poetry Foundation for more on <a href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/jane-kenyon" rel="nofollow">Jane Kenyon</a>.</p><p>Links:</p><ul><li><a title="Twilight: After Haying by Jane Kenyon - Poems | poets.org" rel="nofollow" href="https://poets.org/poem/twilight-after-haying">Twilight: After Haying by Jane Kenyon - Poems | poets.org</a></li><li><a title="Otherwise | Graywolf Press" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.graywolfpress.org/books/otherwise">Otherwise | Graywolf Press</a></li><li><a title="Jane Kenyon | Poetry Foundation" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/jane-kenyon">Jane Kenyon | Poetry Foundation</a></li></ul>]]>
  </content:encoded>
  <itunes:summary>
    <![CDATA[<p>This week we take a closer look at another autumn poem, this one by Jane Kenyon from her wonderful book Otherwise: New and Selected Poems. Kenyon builds from and transforms the same tradition of the autumn ode we examined last week with John Keats.</p>

<p>Thank you to Graywolf Press for permission to read this poem from <a href="https://www.graywolfpress.org/books/otherwise" rel="nofollow">Otherwise: New and Selected Poems</a> by Jane Kenyon.</p>

<p>Click here for the full text of <a href="https://poets.org/poem/twilight-after-haying" rel="nofollow">Twilight: After Haying</a>.</p>

<p>See the Poetry Foundation for more on <a href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/jane-kenyon" rel="nofollow">Jane Kenyon</a>.</p><p>Links:</p><ul><li><a title="Twilight: After Haying by Jane Kenyon - Poems | poets.org" rel="nofollow" href="https://poets.org/poem/twilight-after-haying">Twilight: After Haying by Jane Kenyon - Poems | poets.org</a></li><li><a title="Otherwise | Graywolf Press" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.graywolfpress.org/books/otherwise">Otherwise | Graywolf Press</a></li><li><a title="Jane Kenyon | Poetry Foundation" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/jane-kenyon">Jane Kenyon | Poetry Foundation</a></li></ul>]]>
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  <title>Episode 26: Brenda Cárdenas, "Our Lady of Sorrows"</title>
  <link>https://poetryforall.fireside.fm/26</link>
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  <pubDate>Wed, 15 Sep 2021 12:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
  <author>Joanne Diaz and Abram Van Engen</author>
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  <itunes:season>3</itunes:season>
  <itunes:author>Joanne Diaz and Abram Van Engen</itunes:author>
  <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, Brenda Cárdenas guides us through a reading of "Our Lady of Sorrows," an ekphrastic poem that is inspired by the work of Ana Mendieta. </itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>21:44</itunes:duration>
  <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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  <description>In this episode, Brenda Cárdenas guides us through a reading of "Our Lady of Sorrows," an ekphrastic poem that is inspired by the work of Ana Mendieta. 
To read more of Brenda Cárdenas's work, click here:
https://uwm.edu/english/our-people/cardenas-brenda/
To learn more about Ana Mendieta's work, click here:
https://www.guggenheim.org/artwork/artist/ana-mendieta
</description>
  <itunes:keywords>21st century, ekphrasis, erasure, free verse, grief and loss, guest on the show, hispanic heritage month, nature poetry, social justice and advocacy, spirituality, visual poetry, word and image</itunes:keywords>
  <content:encoded>
    <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Brenda Cárdenas guides us through a reading of &quot;Our Lady of Sorrows,&quot; an ekphrastic poem that is inspired by the work of Ana Mendieta. </p>

<p>To read more of Brenda Cárdenas&#39;s work, click here:</p>

<p><a href="https://uwm.edu/english/our-people/cardenas-brenda/" rel="nofollow">https://uwm.edu/english/our-people/cardenas-brenda/</a></p>

<p>To learn more about Ana Mendieta&#39;s work, click here:</p>

<p><a href="https://www.guggenheim.org/artwork/artist/ana-mendieta" rel="nofollow">https://www.guggenheim.org/artwork/artist/ana-mendieta</a></p>]]>
  </content:encoded>
  <itunes:summary>
    <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Brenda Cárdenas guides us through a reading of &quot;Our Lady of Sorrows,&quot; an ekphrastic poem that is inspired by the work of Ana Mendieta. </p>

<p>To read more of Brenda Cárdenas&#39;s work, click here:</p>

<p><a href="https://uwm.edu/english/our-people/cardenas-brenda/" rel="nofollow">https://uwm.edu/english/our-people/cardenas-brenda/</a></p>

<p>To learn more about Ana Mendieta&#39;s work, click here:</p>

<p><a href="https://www.guggenheim.org/artwork/artist/ana-mendieta" rel="nofollow">https://www.guggenheim.org/artwork/artist/ana-mendieta</a></p>]]>
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<item>
  <title>Episode 20: Hester Pulter, View But This Tulip</title>
  <link>https://poetryforall.fireside.fm/20</link>
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  <pubDate>Mon, 29 Mar 2021 10:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
  <author>Joanne Diaz and Abram Van Engen</author>
  <enclosure url="https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/d55a3bfc-6538-4214-882b-a389e71b4bf6/c42b6c15-8881-4318-861b-5db613153526.mp3" length="18732224" type="audio/mpeg"/>
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  <itunes:season>2</itunes:season>
  <itunes:author>Joanne Diaz and Abram Van Engen</itunes:author>
  <itunes:subtitle>Wendy Wall joins us to discuss an extraordinary poet whose works went unknown for over three hundred years. Hester Pulter brought together science, religion, poetic traditions and so much more. Her 120 remarkable poems are now available at the award-winning Pulter Project website.</itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>25:44</itunes:duration>
  <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
  <itunes:image href="https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-images-2024/podcasts/images/d/d55a3bfc-6538-4214-882b-a389e71b4bf6/episodes/c/c42b6c15-8881-4318-861b-5db613153526/cover.jpg?v=2"/>
  <description>Wendy Wall joins us to discuss an extraordinary poet whose works went unknown for over three hundred years. Hester Pulter brought together science, religion, poetic traditions and so much more. Her 120 remarkable poems are now available at the award-winning Pulter Project (https://pulterproject.northwestern.edu/) website.
In this episode we discuss her work with emblems, her scientific chemistry experiment with flowers, and her wonderment (both worried and confident, doubtful and awestruck) about the resurrection of the body and its reunification with the soul after death.
For a biography of Hester Pulter, see here: 
https://pulterproject.northwestern.edu/about-hester-pulter-and-the-manuscript.html
For her poems, see the Pulter Project here:
https://pulterproject.northwestern.edu/
Here is the text of today's poem:
"View But This Tulip" (Emblem 40)
View but this tulip, rose, or gillyflower,
And by a finite, see an infinite power.
These flowers into their chaos were retired
Till human art them raised and reinspired
With beating, macerating, fermentation,
Calcining, chemically, with segregation;
Then, lest the air these secrets should reveal,
Shut up the ashes under Hermes’s seal;
Then, with a candle or a gentle fire,
You may reanimate at your desire
These gallant plants; but if you cool the glass,
To their first principles they’ll quickly pass:
From sulfur, salt, and mercury they came;
When they dissolve, they turn into the same.
Then, seeing a wretched mortal hath the power
To recreate a Virbius of a flower,
Why should we fear, though sadly we retire
Into our cause? Our God will reinspire
Our dormant dust, and keep alive the same
With an all-quick’ning, everlasting flame.
Then, though I into atoms scattered be,
In indivisibles I’ll trust in Thee.
Then let this comfort me in my sad story:
Dust is but four degrees removed from glory
By Nature’s paths, but God from death and night
Can raise this flesh to endless life and light.
Then, my impatient soul, contented be,
For thou a glorious spring ere long shalt see.
After these gloomy shades of death and sorrow,
Thou shalt enjoy an everlasting morrow.
As wheat in new-plowed furrows rotting lies,
Incapable of quick’ning till it dies,
So into dust this flesh of mine must turn
And lie a while forgotten in my urn.
Yet when the sea, and earth, and Hell shall give
Their treasures up, my body too shall live:
Not like the resurrection at Grand Caire,
Where men revive, then straight of life despair;
But, with my soul, my flesh shall reunite
And ne’er involvéd be with death and night,
But live in endless pleasure, love, and light.
Then hallelujahs will I sing to thee,
My gracious God, to all eternity.
Then at thy dissolution patient be:
If man can raise a flower, God can thee.
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  <itunes:keywords>17th century, christianity, guest on the show, hope, rhymed verse, science and medicine, spirituality</itunes:keywords>
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    <![CDATA[<p>Wendy Wall joins us to discuss an extraordinary poet whose works went unknown for over three hundred years. Hester Pulter brought together science, religion, poetic traditions and so much more. Her 120 remarkable poems are now available at the award-winning <a href="https://pulterproject.northwestern.edu/" rel="nofollow">Pulter Project</a> website.</p>

<p>In this episode we discuss her work with emblems, her scientific chemistry experiment with flowers, and her wonderment (both worried and confident, doubtful and awestruck) about the resurrection of the body and its reunification with the soul after death.</p>

<p>For a biography of Hester Pulter, see here: <br>
<a href="https://pulterproject.northwestern.edu/about-hester-pulter-and-the-manuscript.html" rel="nofollow">https://pulterproject.northwestern.edu/about-hester-pulter-and-the-manuscript.html</a></p>

<p>For her poems, see the Pulter Project here:<br>
<a href="https://pulterproject.northwestern.edu/" rel="nofollow">https://pulterproject.northwestern.edu/</a></p>

<p>Here is the text of today&#39;s poem:</p>

<p><strong>&quot;View But This Tulip&quot; (Emblem 40)</strong></p>

<p>View but this tulip, rose, or gillyflower,<br>
And by a finite, see an infinite power.<br>
These flowers into their chaos were retired<br>
Till human art them raised and reinspired<br>
With beating, macerating, fermentation,<br>
Calcining, chemically, with segregation;<br>
Then, lest the air these secrets should reveal,<br>
Shut up the ashes under Hermes’s seal;<br>
Then, with a candle or a gentle fire,<br>
You may reanimate at your desire<br>
These gallant plants; but if you cool the glass,<br>
To their first principles they’ll quickly pass:<br>
From sulfur, salt, and mercury they came;<br>
When they dissolve, they turn into the same.<br>
Then, seeing a wretched mortal hath the power<br>
To recreate a Virbius of a flower,<br>
Why should we fear, though sadly we retire<br>
Into our cause? Our God will reinspire<br>
Our dormant dust, and keep alive the same<br>
With an all-quick’ning, everlasting flame.<br>
Then, though I into atoms scattered be,<br>
In indivisibles I’ll trust in Thee.<br>
Then let this comfort me in my sad story:<br>
Dust is but four degrees removed from glory<br>
By Nature’s paths, but God from death and night<br>
Can raise this flesh to endless life and light.<br>
Then, my impatient soul, contented be,<br>
For thou a glorious spring ere long shalt see.<br>
After these gloomy shades of death and sorrow,<br>
Thou shalt enjoy an everlasting morrow.<br>
As wheat in new-plowed furrows rotting lies,<br>
Incapable of quick’ning till it dies,<br>
So into dust this flesh of mine must turn<br>
And lie a while forgotten in my urn.<br>
Yet when the sea, and earth, and Hell shall give<br>
Their treasures up, my body too shall live:<br>
Not like the resurrection at Grand Caire,<br>
Where men revive, then straight of life despair;<br>
But, with my soul, my flesh shall reunite<br>
And ne’er involvéd be with death and night,<br>
But live in endless pleasure, love, and light.<br>
Then hallelujahs will I sing to thee,<br>
My gracious God, to all eternity.<br>
Then at thy dissolution patient be:<br>
If man can raise a flower, God can thee.</p>]]>
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  <itunes:summary>
    <![CDATA[<p>Wendy Wall joins us to discuss an extraordinary poet whose works went unknown for over three hundred years. Hester Pulter brought together science, religion, poetic traditions and so much more. Her 120 remarkable poems are now available at the award-winning <a href="https://pulterproject.northwestern.edu/" rel="nofollow">Pulter Project</a> website.</p>

<p>In this episode we discuss her work with emblems, her scientific chemistry experiment with flowers, and her wonderment (both worried and confident, doubtful and awestruck) about the resurrection of the body and its reunification with the soul after death.</p>

<p>For a biography of Hester Pulter, see here: <br>
<a href="https://pulterproject.northwestern.edu/about-hester-pulter-and-the-manuscript.html" rel="nofollow">https://pulterproject.northwestern.edu/about-hester-pulter-and-the-manuscript.html</a></p>

<p>For her poems, see the Pulter Project here:<br>
<a href="https://pulterproject.northwestern.edu/" rel="nofollow">https://pulterproject.northwestern.edu/</a></p>

<p>Here is the text of today&#39;s poem:</p>

<p><strong>&quot;View But This Tulip&quot; (Emblem 40)</strong></p>

<p>View but this tulip, rose, or gillyflower,<br>
And by a finite, see an infinite power.<br>
These flowers into their chaos were retired<br>
Till human art them raised and reinspired<br>
With beating, macerating, fermentation,<br>
Calcining, chemically, with segregation;<br>
Then, lest the air these secrets should reveal,<br>
Shut up the ashes under Hermes’s seal;<br>
Then, with a candle or a gentle fire,<br>
You may reanimate at your desire<br>
These gallant plants; but if you cool the glass,<br>
To their first principles they’ll quickly pass:<br>
From sulfur, salt, and mercury they came;<br>
When they dissolve, they turn into the same.<br>
Then, seeing a wretched mortal hath the power<br>
To recreate a Virbius of a flower,<br>
Why should we fear, though sadly we retire<br>
Into our cause? Our God will reinspire<br>
Our dormant dust, and keep alive the same<br>
With an all-quick’ning, everlasting flame.<br>
Then, though I into atoms scattered be,<br>
In indivisibles I’ll trust in Thee.<br>
Then let this comfort me in my sad story:<br>
Dust is but four degrees removed from glory<br>
By Nature’s paths, but God from death and night<br>
Can raise this flesh to endless life and light.<br>
Then, my impatient soul, contented be,<br>
For thou a glorious spring ere long shalt see.<br>
After these gloomy shades of death and sorrow,<br>
Thou shalt enjoy an everlasting morrow.<br>
As wheat in new-plowed furrows rotting lies,<br>
Incapable of quick’ning till it dies,<br>
So into dust this flesh of mine must turn<br>
And lie a while forgotten in my urn.<br>
Yet when the sea, and earth, and Hell shall give<br>
Their treasures up, my body too shall live:<br>
Not like the resurrection at Grand Caire,<br>
Where men revive, then straight of life despair;<br>
But, with my soul, my flesh shall reunite<br>
And ne’er involvéd be with death and night,<br>
But live in endless pleasure, love, and light.<br>
Then hallelujahs will I sing to thee,<br>
My gracious God, to all eternity.<br>
Then at thy dissolution patient be:<br>
If man can raise a flower, God can thee.</p>]]>
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  <title>Episode 19: Naomi Shihab Nye, Gate A-4</title>
  <link>https://poetryforall.fireside.fm/19</link>
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  <pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2021 18:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
  <author>Joanne Diaz and Abram Van Engen</author>
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  <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
  <itunes:season>2</itunes:season>
  <itunes:author>Joanne Diaz and Abram Van Engen</itunes:author>
  <itunes:subtitle>Remember airports? In this wonderful, narrative poem, Nye speaks of the remarkable capacity for community in a world of strangers.</itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>18:59</itunes:duration>
  <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
  <itunes:image href="https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-images-2024/podcasts/images/d/d55a3bfc-6538-4214-882b-a389e71b4bf6/episodes/4/4e75b8fc-c85a-4f4e-8355-dbd15488422a/cover.jpg?v=3"/>
  <description>Naomi Shihab Nye, a Palestinian-American poet born in St. Louis and raised in Jerusalem and San Antonio, focuses on the ordinary to observe the extraordinary. Her poetry often speaks of cultural encounters and celebrates different cultures. She is the recipient of many awards and is currently the Poetry Foundation's Young People's Poet Laureate. 
In this poem, we explore what makes a poem "poetry" versus some other genre, and we consider what difference such designations make while walking through a longer, narrative poem.
For the text of the poem, see here: https://poets.org/poem/gate-4
For more on Naomi Shihab Nye, see the Poetry Foundation: https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/naomi-shihab-nye
This poem comes from Honeybee: Poems and Short Prose (https://www.amazon.com/Honeybee-Poems-Naomi-Shihab-Nye/dp/0060853905).
The image has a creative commons license and can be found here (https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Naomishihabnye.jpg). 
</description>
  <itunes:keywords>21st century, hope, joy, narrative, social justice and advocacy, spirituality, surprise, wonder</itunes:keywords>
  <content:encoded>
    <![CDATA[<p>Naomi Shihab Nye, a Palestinian-American poet born in St. Louis and raised in Jerusalem and San Antonio, focuses on the ordinary to observe the extraordinary. Her poetry often speaks of cultural encounters and celebrates different cultures. She is the recipient of many awards and is currently the Poetry Foundation&#39;s Young People&#39;s Poet Laureate. </p>

<p>In this poem, we explore what makes a poem &quot;poetry&quot; versus some other genre, and we consider what difference such designations make while walking through a longer, narrative poem.</p>

<p>For the text of the poem, see here: <a href="https://poets.org/poem/gate-4" rel="nofollow">https://poets.org/poem/gate-4</a></p>

<p>For more on Naomi Shihab Nye, see the Poetry Foundation: <a href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/naomi-shihab-nye" rel="nofollow">https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/naomi-shihab-nye</a></p>

<p>This poem comes from <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Honeybee-Poems-Naomi-Shihab-Nye/dp/0060853905" rel="nofollow">Honeybee: Poems and Short Prose</a>.</p>

<p>The image has a creative commons license and can be <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Naomishihabnye.jpg" rel="nofollow">found here</a>.</p>]]>
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  <itunes:summary>
    <![CDATA[<p>Naomi Shihab Nye, a Palestinian-American poet born in St. Louis and raised in Jerusalem and San Antonio, focuses on the ordinary to observe the extraordinary. Her poetry often speaks of cultural encounters and celebrates different cultures. She is the recipient of many awards and is currently the Poetry Foundation&#39;s Young People&#39;s Poet Laureate. </p>

<p>In this poem, we explore what makes a poem &quot;poetry&quot; versus some other genre, and we consider what difference such designations make while walking through a longer, narrative poem.</p>

<p>For the text of the poem, see here: <a href="https://poets.org/poem/gate-4" rel="nofollow">https://poets.org/poem/gate-4</a></p>

<p>For more on Naomi Shihab Nye, see the Poetry Foundation: <a href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/naomi-shihab-nye" rel="nofollow">https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/naomi-shihab-nye</a></p>

<p>This poem comes from <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Honeybee-Poems-Naomi-Shihab-Nye/dp/0060853905" rel="nofollow">Honeybee: Poems and Short Prose</a>.</p>

<p>The image has a creative commons license and can be <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Naomishihabnye.jpg" rel="nofollow">found here</a>.</p>]]>
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  <title>Episode 14: George Herbert, The Collar</title>
  <link>https://poetryforall.fireside.fm/14</link>
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  <pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2021 09:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
  <author>Joanne Diaz and Abram Van Engen</author>
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  <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
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  <itunes:author>Joanne Diaz and Abram Van Engen</itunes:author>
  <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, we look at "The Collar"--a famous single-stanza poem, playing with meter, rhythm, and rhyme by the seventeenth-century priest and poet, George Herbert.</itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>18:24</itunes:duration>
  <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
  <itunes:image href="https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-images-2024/podcasts/images/d/d55a3bfc-6538-4214-882b-a389e71b4bf6/episodes/1/13b04c3a-c56c-4b40-88c5-87ef8067cede/cover.jpg?v=1"/>
  <description>In this episode, we look at "The Collar"--a famous single-stanza poem, playing with meter, rhythm, and rhyme by the seventeenth-century priest and poet, George Herbert.
Here is the poem in full:
THE COLLAR
I struck the board, and cried, "No more;
                         I will abroad!
What? shall I ever sigh and pine?
My lines and life are free, free as the road,
Loose as the wind, as large as store.
          Shall I be still in suit?
Have I no harvest but a thorn
To let me blood, and not restore
What I have lost with cordial fruit?
          Sure there was wine
Before my sighs did dry it; there was corn
    Before my tears did drown it.
      Is the year only lost to me?
          Have I no bays to crown it,
No flowers, no garlands gay? All blasted?
                  All wasted?
Not so, my heart; but there is fruit,
            And thou hast hands.
Recover all thy sigh-blown age
On double pleasures: leave thy cold dispute
Of what is fit and not. Forsake thy cage,
             Thy rope of sands,
Which petty thoughts have made, and made to thee
Good cable, to enforce and draw,
          And be thy law,
While thou didst wink and wouldst not see.
          Away! take heed;
          I will abroad.
Call in thy death's-head there; tie up thy fears;
          He that forbears
         To suit and serve his need
          Deserves his load."
But as I raved and grew more fierce and wild
          At every word,
Methought I heard one calling, Child!
          And I replied My Lord.
For more on George Herbert, visit the poetry foundation (https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/george-herbert).
</description>
  <itunes:keywords>17th century, anger, christianity, narrative, restlessness, rhymed verse, spirituality, surprise</itunes:keywords>
  <content:encoded>
    <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we look at &quot;The Collar&quot;--a famous single-stanza poem, playing with meter, rhythm, and rhyme by the seventeenth-century priest and poet, George Herbert.</p>

<p>Here is the poem in full:</p>

<p>THE COLLAR</p>

<p>I struck the board, and cried, &quot;No more;<br>
                         I will abroad!<br>
What? shall I ever sigh and pine?<br>
My lines and life are free, free as the road,<br>
Loose as the wind, as large as store.<br>
          Shall I be still in suit?<br>
Have I no harvest but a thorn<br>
To let me blood, and not restore<br>
What I have lost with cordial fruit?<br>
          Sure there was wine<br>
Before my sighs did dry it; there was corn<br>
    Before my tears did drown it.<br>
      Is the year only lost to me?<br>
          Have I no bays to crown it,<br>
No flowers, no garlands gay? All blasted?<br>
                  All wasted?<br>
Not so, my heart; but there is fruit,<br>
            And thou hast hands.<br>
Recover all thy sigh-blown age<br>
On double pleasures: leave thy cold dispute<br>
Of what is fit and not. Forsake thy cage,<br>
             Thy rope of sands,<br>
Which petty thoughts have made, and made to thee<br>
Good cable, to enforce and draw,<br>
          And be thy law,<br>
While thou didst wink and wouldst not see.<br>
          Away! take heed;<br>
          I will abroad.<br>
Call in thy death&#39;s-head there; tie up thy fears;<br>
          He that forbears<br>
         To suit and serve his need<br>
          Deserves his load.&quot;<br>
But as I raved and grew more fierce and wild<br>
          At every word,<br>
Methought I heard one calling, Child!<br>
          And I replied My Lord.</p>

<p>For more on George Herbert, visit <a href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/george-herbert" rel="nofollow">the poetry foundation</a>.</p>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we look at &quot;The Collar&quot;--a famous single-stanza poem, playing with meter, rhythm, and rhyme by the seventeenth-century priest and poet, George Herbert.</p>

<p>Here is the poem in full:</p>

<p>THE COLLAR</p>

<p>I struck the board, and cried, &quot;No more;<br>
                         I will abroad!<br>
What? shall I ever sigh and pine?<br>
My lines and life are free, free as the road,<br>
Loose as the wind, as large as store.<br>
          Shall I be still in suit?<br>
Have I no harvest but a thorn<br>
To let me blood, and not restore<br>
What I have lost with cordial fruit?<br>
          Sure there was wine<br>
Before my sighs did dry it; there was corn<br>
    Before my tears did drown it.<br>
      Is the year only lost to me?<br>
          Have I no bays to crown it,<br>
No flowers, no garlands gay? All blasted?<br>
                  All wasted?<br>
Not so, my heart; but there is fruit,<br>
            And thou hast hands.<br>
Recover all thy sigh-blown age<br>
On double pleasures: leave thy cold dispute<br>
Of what is fit and not. Forsake thy cage,<br>
             Thy rope of sands,<br>
Which petty thoughts have made, and made to thee<br>
Good cable, to enforce and draw,<br>
          And be thy law,<br>
While thou didst wink and wouldst not see.<br>
          Away! take heed;<br>
          I will abroad.<br>
Call in thy death&#39;s-head there; tie up thy fears;<br>
          He that forbears<br>
         To suit and serve his need<br>
          Deserves his load.&quot;<br>
But as I raved and grew more fierce and wild<br>
          At every word,<br>
Methought I heard one calling, Child!<br>
          And I replied My Lord.</p>

<p>For more on George Herbert, visit <a href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/george-herbert" rel="nofollow">the poetry foundation</a>.</p>]]>
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  <title>Episode 2: Emily Dickinson, Tell all the truth</title>
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  <pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2020 07:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
  <author>Joanne Diaz and Abram Van Engen</author>
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  <itunes:subtitle>What does it mean to tell the truth "slant"? Is this a ballad, a hymn? What is "ars poetica" and is this an example? Join us for a discussion of this great, short, fun, rich poem by Dickinson.</itunes:subtitle>
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Tell all the truth but tell it slant — (1263)
by Emily Dickinson
Tell all the truth but tell it slant —
Success in Circuit lies
Too bright for our infirm Delight
The Truth's superb surprise
As Lightning to the Children eased
With explanation kind
The Truth must dazzle gradually
Or every man be blind —
For more on Emily Dickinson, see https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/emily-dickinson 
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  <itunes:keywords>19th century, ars poetica, rhymed verse, spirituality, surprise, women's history month</itunes:keywords>
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    <![CDATA[<p><a href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/56824/tell-all-the-truth-but-tell-it-slant-1263" rel="nofollow">Full poem</a>:</p>

<p>Tell all the truth but tell it slant — (1263)<br>
by Emily Dickinson</p>

<p>Tell all the truth but tell it slant —<br>
Success in Circuit lies<br>
Too bright for our infirm Delight<br>
The Truth&#39;s superb surprise<br>
As Lightning to the Children eased<br>
With explanation kind<br>
The Truth must dazzle gradually<br>
Or every man be blind —</p>

<p>For more on Emily Dickinson, see <a href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/emily-dickinson" rel="nofollow">https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/emily-dickinson</a></p><p>Links:</p><ul><li><a title="Emily Dickons, Tell all the truth but tell it slant --" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/56824/tell-all-the-truth-but-tell-it-slant-1263">Emily Dickons, Tell all the truth but tell it slant --</a></li><li><a title="Emily Dickinson | Poetry Foundation" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/emily-dickinson">Emily Dickinson | Poetry Foundation</a></li></ul>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<p><a href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/56824/tell-all-the-truth-but-tell-it-slant-1263" rel="nofollow">Full poem</a>:</p>

<p>Tell all the truth but tell it slant — (1263)<br>
by Emily Dickinson</p>

<p>Tell all the truth but tell it slant —<br>
Success in Circuit lies<br>
Too bright for our infirm Delight<br>
The Truth&#39;s superb surprise<br>
As Lightning to the Children eased<br>
With explanation kind<br>
The Truth must dazzle gradually<br>
Or every man be blind —</p>

<p>For more on Emily Dickinson, see <a href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/emily-dickinson" rel="nofollow">https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/emily-dickinson</a></p><p>Links:</p><ul><li><a title="Emily Dickons, Tell all the truth but tell it slant --" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/56824/tell-all-the-truth-but-tell-it-slant-1263">Emily Dickons, Tell all the truth but tell it slant --</a></li><li><a title="Emily Dickinson | Poetry Foundation" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/emily-dickinson">Emily Dickinson | Poetry Foundation</a></li></ul>]]>
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