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    <title>Poetry For All - Episodes Tagged with “Wonder”</title>
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    <pubDate>Sat, 31 Jan 2026 09:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
    <description>This podcast is for those who already love poetry and for those who know very little about it. In this podcast, we read a poem, discuss it, see what makes it tick, learn how it works, grow from it, and then read it one more time.
Introducing our brand new Poetry For All website: https://poetryforallpod.com! Please visit the new website to learn more about our guests, search for thematic episodes (ranging from Black History Month to the season of autumn), and subscribe to our newsletter. 
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    <itunes:subtitle>Finding Our Way Into Great Poems</itunes:subtitle>
    <itunes:author>Joanne Diaz and Abram Van Engen</itunes:author>
    <itunes:summary>This podcast is for those who already love poetry and for those who know very little about it. In this podcast, we read a poem, discuss it, see what makes it tick, learn how it works, grow from it, and then read it one more time.
Introducing our brand new Poetry For All website: https://poetryforallpod.com! Please visit the new website to learn more about our guests, search for thematic episodes (ranging from Black History Month to the season of autumn), and subscribe to our newsletter. 
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      <itunes:name>Joanne Diaz and Abram Van Engen</itunes:name>
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  <title>Episode 104: Jane Zwart, I read that the moon is rusting</title>
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  <pubDate>Sat, 31 Jan 2026 09:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
  <author>Joanne Diaz and Abram Van Engen</author>
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  <itunes:season>8</itunes:season>
  <itunes:author>Joanne Diaz and Abram Van Engen</itunes:author>
  <itunes:subtitle>This episode brings together a collage of images to explore the meaning of time, the emergence of events from one to another, and the wonder of the unknown.</itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>24:28</itunes:duration>
  <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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  <description>This episode brings together a collage of images to explore the meaning of time, the emergence of events from one to another, and the wonder of the unknown.
For the full text of the poem, see here:
https://mail.readwildness.com/25/zwart-rusting
For more on the poet Jane Zwart, see her personal website:
https://www.janezwart.com/
To see her new book and purchase a copy, see "Oddest &amp;amp; Oldest &amp;amp; Saddest &amp;amp; Best" at Orison Books:
https://www.orisonbooks.com/product-page/oddest-oldest-saddest-best-poems-by-jane-zwart 
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  <itunes:keywords>guest on the show, 21st century, free verse, spirituality, children, wonder, surprise, grief and loss</itunes:keywords>
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    <![CDATA[<p>This episode brings together a collage of images to explore the meaning of time, the emergence of events from one to another, and the wonder of the unknown.</p>

<p>For the full text of the poem, see here:<br>
<a href="https://mail.readwildness.com/25/zwart-rusting" rel="nofollow">https://mail.readwildness.com/25/zwart-rusting</a></p>

<p>For more on the poet Jane Zwart, see her personal website:<br>
<a href="https://www.janezwart.com/" rel="nofollow">https://www.janezwart.com/</a></p>

<p>To see her new book and purchase a copy, see &quot;Oddest &amp; Oldest &amp; Saddest &amp; Best&quot; at Orison Books:<br>
<a href="https://www.orisonbooks.com/product-page/oddest-oldest-saddest-best-poems-by-jane-zwart" rel="nofollow">https://www.orisonbooks.com/product-page/oddest-oldest-saddest-best-poems-by-jane-zwart</a></p>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<p>This episode brings together a collage of images to explore the meaning of time, the emergence of events from one to another, and the wonder of the unknown.</p>

<p>For the full text of the poem, see here:<br>
<a href="https://mail.readwildness.com/25/zwart-rusting" rel="nofollow">https://mail.readwildness.com/25/zwart-rusting</a></p>

<p>For more on the poet Jane Zwart, see her personal website:<br>
<a href="https://www.janezwart.com/" rel="nofollow">https://www.janezwart.com/</a></p>

<p>To see her new book and purchase a copy, see &quot;Oddest &amp; Oldest &amp; Saddest &amp; Best&quot; at Orison Books:<br>
<a href="https://www.orisonbooks.com/product-page/oddest-oldest-saddest-best-poems-by-jane-zwart" rel="nofollow">https://www.orisonbooks.com/product-page/oddest-oldest-saddest-best-poems-by-jane-zwart</a></p>]]>
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<item>
  <title>Episode 96: Gerard Manley Hopkins, God's Grandeur</title>
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  <pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2025 10:30:00 -0400</pubDate>
  <author>Joanne Diaz and Abram Van Engen</author>
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  <itunes:subtitle>Today we look at a sonnet by Gerard Manley Hopkins that dwells equally in the grandeur of God and the wreck made of earth. Hopkins wonders how these two aspects of our world could possibly relate, and he holds out hope for the dearest freshness deep down things.</itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>24:23</itunes:duration>
  <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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  <description>Today we look at a sonnet by Gerard Manley Hopkins that dwells equally in the grandeur of God and the wreck made of earth. Hopkins wonders how these two aspects of our world could possibly relate, and he holds out hope for the dearest freshness deep down things.
God's Grandeur
By Gerard Manley Hopkins
The world is charged with the grandeur of God.
    It will flame out, like shining from shook foil;
    It gathers to a greatness, like the ooze of oil
Crushed. Why do men then now not reck his rod?
Generations have trod, have trod, have trod;
    And all is seared with trade; bleared, smeared with toil;
    And wears man's smudge and shares man's smell: the soil
Is bare now, nor can foot feel, being shod.
And for all this, nature is never spent;
    There lives the dearest freshness deep down things;
And though the last lights off the black West went
    Oh, morning, at the brown brink eastward, springs —
Because the Holy Ghost over the bent
    World broods with warm breast and with ah! bright wings.
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    <![CDATA[<p>Today we look at a sonnet by Gerard Manley Hopkins that dwells equally in the grandeur of God and the wreck made of earth. Hopkins wonders how these two aspects of our world could possibly relate, and he holds out hope for the dearest freshness deep down things.</p>

<p><strong>God&#39;s Grandeur</strong><br>
By Gerard Manley Hopkins</p>

<p>The world is charged with the grandeur of God.<br>
    It will flame out, like shining from shook foil;<br>
    It gathers to a greatness, like the ooze of oil<br>
Crushed. Why do men then now not reck his rod?<br>
Generations have trod, have trod, have trod;<br>
    And all is seared with trade; bleared, smeared with toil;<br>
    And wears man&#39;s smudge and shares man&#39;s smell: the soil<br>
Is bare now, nor can foot feel, being shod.</p>

<p>And for all this, nature is never spent;<br>
    There lives the dearest freshness deep down things;<br>
And though the last lights off the black West went<br>
    Oh, morning, at the brown brink eastward, springs —<br>
Because the Holy Ghost over the bent<br>
    World broods with warm breast and with ah! bright wings.</p>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<p>Today we look at a sonnet by Gerard Manley Hopkins that dwells equally in the grandeur of God and the wreck made of earth. Hopkins wonders how these two aspects of our world could possibly relate, and he holds out hope for the dearest freshness deep down things.</p>

<p><strong>God&#39;s Grandeur</strong><br>
By Gerard Manley Hopkins</p>

<p>The world is charged with the grandeur of God.<br>
    It will flame out, like shining from shook foil;<br>
    It gathers to a greatness, like the ooze of oil<br>
Crushed. Why do men then now not reck his rod?<br>
Generations have trod, have trod, have trod;<br>
    And all is seared with trade; bleared, smeared with toil;<br>
    And wears man&#39;s smudge and shares man&#39;s smell: the soil<br>
Is bare now, nor can foot feel, being shod.</p>

<p>And for all this, nature is never spent;<br>
    There lives the dearest freshness deep down things;<br>
And though the last lights off the black West went<br>
    Oh, morning, at the brown brink eastward, springs —<br>
Because the Holy Ghost over the bent<br>
    World broods with warm breast and with ah! bright wings.</p>]]>
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  <title>Episode 90: N. Scott Momaday, The Delight Song of Tsoai-talee</title>
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  <pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2025 07:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
  <author>Joanne Diaz and Abram Van Engen</author>
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  <itunes:season>6</itunes:season>
  <itunes:author>Joanne Diaz and Abram Van Engen</itunes:author>
  <itunes:subtitle>This episode explores the incantation and mystic union of Momaday's famous delight poem, ending with a recorded recitation in his own rich voice.</itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>20:23</itunes:duration>
  <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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  <description>This episode explores the incantation and mystic union of Momaday's famous delight poem, ending with a recorded recitation in his own rich voice. We explain anaphora and explore its power, and we trace the links and connections from one thought to the next throughout the poem.
Special thanks to Universty of California Television (UCTV) for permission to share the audio of Momaday's reading. For the interview with Momaday from which this reading has been pulled, see "A Conversation with N. Scott Momaday -- Writer's Symposium by the Sea 2023 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PA3PZqeIuc)" on Youtube. "The Delight Song of Tsoai-talee" appears in In the Presence of the Sun by N. Scott Momaday. Copyright © 2009 University of New Mexico Press (https://www.unmpress.com/), 2009.
For the text of the poem, see The Poetry Foundation here (https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/46558/the-delight-song-of-tsoai-talee).
For more on Momaday, see his biography (https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/n-scott-momaday) at the Poetry Foundation.
</description>
  <itunes:keywords>21st century, free verse, Native American Heritage Month, spirituality, repetition or refrain, joy, wonder</itunes:keywords>
  <content:encoded>
    <![CDATA[<p>This episode explores the incantation and mystic union of Momaday&#39;s famous delight poem, ending with a recorded recitation in his own rich voice. We explain anaphora and explore its power, and we trace the links and connections from one thought to the next throughout the poem.</p>

<p>Special thanks to Universty of California Television (UCTV) for permission to share the audio of Momaday&#39;s reading. For the interview with Momaday from which this reading has been pulled, see &quot;<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PA3PZqeIuc" rel="nofollow">A Conversation with N. Scott Momaday -- Writer&#39;s Symposium by the Sea 2023</a>&quot; on Youtube. &quot;The Delight Song of Tsoai-talee&quot; appears in <em>In the Presence of the Sun</em> by N. Scott Momaday. Copyright © 2009 <a href="https://www.unmpress.com/" rel="nofollow">University of New Mexico Press</a>, 2009.</p>

<p>For the text of the poem, see <a href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/46558/the-delight-song-of-tsoai-talee" rel="nofollow">The Poetry Foundation here</a>.</p>

<p>For more on Momaday, see his <a href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/n-scott-momaday" rel="nofollow">biography</a> at the Poetry Foundation.</p>]]>
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  <itunes:summary>
    <![CDATA[<p>This episode explores the incantation and mystic union of Momaday&#39;s famous delight poem, ending with a recorded recitation in his own rich voice. We explain anaphora and explore its power, and we trace the links and connections from one thought to the next throughout the poem.</p>

<p>Special thanks to Universty of California Television (UCTV) for permission to share the audio of Momaday&#39;s reading. For the interview with Momaday from which this reading has been pulled, see &quot;<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PA3PZqeIuc" rel="nofollow">A Conversation with N. Scott Momaday -- Writer&#39;s Symposium by the Sea 2023</a>&quot; on Youtube. &quot;The Delight Song of Tsoai-talee&quot; appears in <em>In the Presence of the Sun</em> by N. Scott Momaday. Copyright © 2009 <a href="https://www.unmpress.com/" rel="nofollow">University of New Mexico Press</a>, 2009.</p>

<p>For the text of the poem, see <a href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/46558/the-delight-song-of-tsoai-talee" rel="nofollow">The Poetry Foundation here</a>.</p>

<p>For more on Momaday, see his <a href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/n-scott-momaday" rel="nofollow">biography</a> at the Poetry Foundation.</p>]]>
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<item>
  <title>Episode 87: Monica Ong, Her Gaze</title>
  <link>https://poetryforall.fireside.fm/87</link>
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  <pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2025 08:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
  <author>Joanne Diaz and Abram Van Engen</author>
  <enclosure url="https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/d55a3bfc-6538-4214-882b-a389e71b4bf6/088b9310-9095-4ef7-b2d9-5b2739ccb626.mp3" length="47829192" type="audio/mpeg"/>
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  <itunes:season>6</itunes:season>
  <itunes:author>Joanne Diaz and Abram Van Engen</itunes:author>
  <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, Monica Ong joins us to discuss "Her Gaze," a visual poem that celebrates the achievements of astronomer Caroline Herschel. "Her Gaze" appears in _Planetaria_, Ong's new collection that merges archival materials with striking lyric poems. </itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>35:21</itunes:duration>
  <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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  <description>In this episode, Monica Ong joins us to discuss "Her Gaze," a visual poem that celebrates the achievements of astronomer Caroline Herschel. "Her Gaze" appears in Planetaria, Ong's new collection that merges archival materials with striking lyric poems. 
Monica Ong is the author of two books: Silent Anatomies (https://korepress.org/product/silent-anatomies-by-monica-ong), which was the winner of the Kore Press First Book Award in 2015; and Planetaria, which will be released in May 2025. Last year, Ong was named a United States Artists Fellow. Ong’s visual poetry has been published in many literary magazines and exhibited in galleries and museums all over the world.
To learn more about Ong's work, please visit her website (https://www.monicaong.com/). 
To purchase a copy of Planetaria, visit the Proxima Vera website (https://www.proximavera.com/publication). 
</description>
  <itunes:keywords>science, wonder, children, word and image, visual poetry, ekphrasis, free verse</itunes:keywords>
  <content:encoded>
    <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Monica Ong joins us to discuss &quot;Her Gaze,&quot; a visual poem that celebrates the achievements of astronomer Caroline Herschel. &quot;Her Gaze&quot; appears in <em>Planetaria</em>, Ong&#39;s new collection that merges archival materials with striking lyric poems. </p>

<p>Monica Ong is the author of two books: <a href="https://korepress.org/product/silent-anatomies-by-monica-ong" rel="nofollow"><em>Silent Anatomies</em></a>, which was the winner of the Kore Press First Book Award in 2015; and <em>Planetaria</em>, which will be released in May 2025. Last year, Ong was named a United States Artists Fellow. Ong’s visual poetry has been published in many literary magazines and exhibited in galleries and museums all over the world.</p>

<p>To learn more about Ong&#39;s work, please visit her <a href="https://www.monicaong.com/" rel="nofollow">website</a>. </p>

<p>To purchase a copy of <em>Planetaria</em>, visit the <a href="https://www.proximavera.com/publication" rel="nofollow">Proxima Vera website</a>.</p>]]>
  </content:encoded>
  <itunes:summary>
    <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Monica Ong joins us to discuss &quot;Her Gaze,&quot; a visual poem that celebrates the achievements of astronomer Caroline Herschel. &quot;Her Gaze&quot; appears in <em>Planetaria</em>, Ong&#39;s new collection that merges archival materials with striking lyric poems. </p>

<p>Monica Ong is the author of two books: <a href="https://korepress.org/product/silent-anatomies-by-monica-ong" rel="nofollow"><em>Silent Anatomies</em></a>, which was the winner of the Kore Press First Book Award in 2015; and <em>Planetaria</em>, which will be released in May 2025. Last year, Ong was named a United States Artists Fellow. Ong’s visual poetry has been published in many literary magazines and exhibited in galleries and museums all over the world.</p>

<p>To learn more about Ong&#39;s work, please visit her <a href="https://www.monicaong.com/" rel="nofollow">website</a>. </p>

<p>To purchase a copy of <em>Planetaria</em>, visit the <a href="https://www.proximavera.com/publication" rel="nofollow">Proxima Vera website</a>.</p>]]>
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<item>
  <title>Episode 84: Ted Kooser, excerpts from Winter Morning Walks</title>
  <link>https://poetryforall.fireside.fm/84</link>
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  <pubDate>Thu, 12 Dec 2024 09:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
  <author>Joanne Diaz and Abram Van Engen</author>
  <enclosure url="https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/d55a3bfc-6538-4214-882b-a389e71b4bf6/8b70a074-087b-4f8f-a852-54fdb6ab2914.mp3" length="17647008" type="audio/mpeg"/>
  <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
  <itunes:season>6</itunes:season>
  <itunes:author>Joanne Diaz and Abram Van Engen</itunes:author>
  <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, we offer close readings of poems from Ted Kooser's Winter Morning Walks: 100 Postcards to Jim Harrison. Kooser's poems allow us to think about the poem as a social act, as a form of healing, and as a kind of meditation.</itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>21:10</itunes:duration>
  <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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  <description>In this episode, we offer close readings of poems from Ted Kooser's_ Winter Morning Walks: 100 Postcards to Jim Harrison_. Kooser's poems allow us to think about the poem as a social act, as a form of healing, and as a kind of meditation.
To learn more about Ted Kooser, visit his website (https://www.tedkooser.net/).
If you like these poems that we discussed in this episode, please read Ted Kooser's Winter Morning Walks: 100 Postcards to Jim Harrison (https://press.uchicago.edu/ucp/books/book/distributed/W/bo43505466.html) (Carnegie Mellon University Press, 2001). Thanks to Carnegie Mellon Press for granting us permission to read these poems aloud. 
</description>
  <itunes:keywords>winter, free verse, poet laureate, nature poetry, loneliness, wonder</itunes:keywords>
  <content:encoded>
    <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we offer close readings of poems from Ted Kooser&#39;s_ Winter Morning Walks: 100 Postcards to Jim Harrison_. Kooser&#39;s poems allow us to think about the poem as a social act, as a form of healing, and as a kind of meditation.</p>

<p>To learn more about Ted Kooser, visit his <a href="https://www.tedkooser.net/" rel="nofollow">website</a>.</p>

<p>If you like these poems that we discussed in this episode, please read Ted Kooser&#39;s <em><a href="https://press.uchicago.edu/ucp/books/book/distributed/W/bo43505466.html" rel="nofollow">Winter Morning Walks: 100 Postcards to Jim Harrison</a></em> (Carnegie Mellon University Press, 2001). Thanks to Carnegie Mellon Press for granting us permission to read these poems aloud.</p>]]>
  </content:encoded>
  <itunes:summary>
    <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we offer close readings of poems from Ted Kooser&#39;s_ Winter Morning Walks: 100 Postcards to Jim Harrison_. Kooser&#39;s poems allow us to think about the poem as a social act, as a form of healing, and as a kind of meditation.</p>

<p>To learn more about Ted Kooser, visit his <a href="https://www.tedkooser.net/" rel="nofollow">website</a>.</p>

<p>If you like these poems that we discussed in this episode, please read Ted Kooser&#39;s <em><a href="https://press.uchicago.edu/ucp/books/book/distributed/W/bo43505466.html" rel="nofollow">Winter Morning Walks: 100 Postcards to Jim Harrison</a></em> (Carnegie Mellon University Press, 2001). Thanks to Carnegie Mellon Press for granting us permission to read these poems aloud.</p>]]>
  </itunes:summary>
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<item>
  <title>Episode 71: Hopkins, As Kingfishers Catch Fire</title>
  <link>https://poetryforall.fireside.fm/71</link>
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  <pubDate>Thu, 18 Apr 2024 09:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
  <author>Joanne Diaz and Abram Van Engen</author>
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  <itunes:subtitle>This episode dives into the wonderful world of Gerard Manley Hopkins, the musicality of his language, and the vision he has of becoming what we already are.</itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>23:55</itunes:duration>
  <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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  <description>This episode dives into the wonderful world of Gerard Manley Hopkins, the musicality of his language, and the vision he has of becoming what we already are.
This poem illustrates the cover of Abram Van Engen's new book, Word Made Fresh (https://a.co/d/ixArJjV). The book explores connections between poetry and faith, and it serves as an invitation to reading poetry of all kinds--with tools and tips for how to get started and explore broadly.
Special thanks to John Hendrix (https://www.johnhendrix.com/) for the cover illustration of Word Made Fresh, which is an illustration of "As Kingfishers Catch Fire."
Here is the poem by Hopkins:
As Kingfishers Catch Fire
As kingfishers catch fire, dragonflies draw flame;
As tumbled over rim in roundy wells
Stones ring; like each tucked string tells, each hung bell's
Bow swung finds tongue to fling out broad its name;
Each mortal thing does one thing and the same:
Deals out that being indoors each one dwells;
Selves — goes itself; myself it speaks and spells,
Crying Whát I dó is me: for that I came.
I say móre: the just man justices;
Keeps grace: thát keeps all his goings graces;
Acts in God's eye what in God's eye he is —
Chríst — for Christ plays in ten thousand places,
Lovely in limbs, and lovely in eyes not his
To the Father through the features of men's faces.
See the poem at the Poetry Foundation.
For more on Hopkins, see here (https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/gerard-manley-hopkins).
The last chapter of Word Made Fresh (https://a.co/d/626hzDG) dwells at length on this poem by Hopkins as an expression of what poetry does and can do in the world. 
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  <itunes:keywords>19th Century, sonnet, Christianity, rhymed verse, nature poetry, wonder</itunes:keywords>
  <content:encoded>
    <![CDATA[<p>This episode dives into the wonderful world of Gerard Manley Hopkins, the musicality of his language, and the vision he has of becoming what we already are.</p>

<p>This poem illustrates the cover of Abram Van Engen&#39;s new book, <em><a href="https://a.co/d/ixArJjV" rel="nofollow">Word Made Fresh</a></em>. The book explores connections between poetry and faith, and it serves as an invitation to reading poetry of all kinds--with tools and tips for how to get started and explore broadly.</p>

<p>Special thanks to <a href="https://www.johnhendrix.com/" rel="nofollow">John Hendrix</a> for the cover illustration of <em>Word Made Fresh</em>, which is an illustration of &quot;As Kingfishers Catch Fire.&quot;</p>

<p>Here is the poem by Hopkins:</p>

<p><strong>As Kingfishers Catch Fire</strong></p>

<p>As kingfishers catch fire, dragonflies draw flame;<br>
As tumbled over rim in roundy wells<br>
Stones ring; like each tucked string tells, each hung bell&#39;s<br>
Bow swung finds tongue to fling out broad its name;<br>
Each mortal thing does one thing and the same:<br>
Deals out that being indoors each one dwells;<br>
Selves — goes itself; myself it speaks and spells,<br>
Crying Whát I dó is me: for that I came.</p>

<p>I say móre: the just man justices;<br>
Keeps grace: thát keeps all his goings graces;<br>
Acts in God&#39;s eye what in God&#39;s eye he is —<br>
Chríst — for Christ plays in ten thousand places,<br>
Lovely in limbs, and lovely in eyes not his<br>
To the Father through the features of men&#39;s faces.</p>

<p>See the poem at the Poetry Foundation.</p>

<p>For more on Hopkins, <a href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/gerard-manley-hopkins" rel="nofollow">see here</a>.</p>

<p>The last chapter of <a href="https://a.co/d/626hzDG" rel="nofollow">Word Made Fresh</a> dwells at length on this poem by Hopkins as an expression of what poetry does and can do in the world.</p><p>Links:</p><ul><li><a title="Word Made Fresh: An Invitation to Poetry for the Church" rel="nofollow" href="https://a.co/d/hRWJYoa">Word Made Fresh: An Invitation to Poetry for the Church</a> &mdash; Have you ever read a book that turned your world upside down? What about a poem?  
 
Poetry has the power to enliven, challenge, change, and enrich our lives. But it can also feel intimidating, confusing, or simply “not for us.” In these joyful and wise reflections, Abram Van Engen shows readers how poetry is for everyone—and how it can reinvigorate our Christian faith. 
 
Intertwining close readings with personal storytelling, Van Engen explains how and why to read poems as a spiritual practice. Far from dry, academic instruction, his approach encourages readers to delight in poetry, even as they come to understand its form. He also opens up the meaning of poetry and parables in Scripture, revealing the deep connection between literature and theology. 
 
Word Made Fresh is more than a guide to poetry—it’s an invitation to wonder, to speak up, to lament, to praise. Including dozens of poems from diverse authors, this book will inspire curious and thoughtful readers to see God and God’s creation in surprising new ways.</li></ul>]]>
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  <itunes:summary>
    <![CDATA[<p>This episode dives into the wonderful world of Gerard Manley Hopkins, the musicality of his language, and the vision he has of becoming what we already are.</p>

<p>This poem illustrates the cover of Abram Van Engen&#39;s new book, <em><a href="https://a.co/d/ixArJjV" rel="nofollow">Word Made Fresh</a></em>. The book explores connections between poetry and faith, and it serves as an invitation to reading poetry of all kinds--with tools and tips for how to get started and explore broadly.</p>

<p>Special thanks to <a href="https://www.johnhendrix.com/" rel="nofollow">John Hendrix</a> for the cover illustration of <em>Word Made Fresh</em>, which is an illustration of &quot;As Kingfishers Catch Fire.&quot;</p>

<p>Here is the poem by Hopkins:</p>

<p><strong>As Kingfishers Catch Fire</strong></p>

<p>As kingfishers catch fire, dragonflies draw flame;<br>
As tumbled over rim in roundy wells<br>
Stones ring; like each tucked string tells, each hung bell&#39;s<br>
Bow swung finds tongue to fling out broad its name;<br>
Each mortal thing does one thing and the same:<br>
Deals out that being indoors each one dwells;<br>
Selves — goes itself; myself it speaks and spells,<br>
Crying Whát I dó is me: for that I came.</p>

<p>I say móre: the just man justices;<br>
Keeps grace: thát keeps all his goings graces;<br>
Acts in God&#39;s eye what in God&#39;s eye he is —<br>
Chríst — for Christ plays in ten thousand places,<br>
Lovely in limbs, and lovely in eyes not his<br>
To the Father through the features of men&#39;s faces.</p>

<p>See the poem at the Poetry Foundation.</p>

<p>For more on Hopkins, <a href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/gerard-manley-hopkins" rel="nofollow">see here</a>.</p>

<p>The last chapter of <a href="https://a.co/d/626hzDG" rel="nofollow">Word Made Fresh</a> dwells at length on this poem by Hopkins as an expression of what poetry does and can do in the world.</p><p>Links:</p><ul><li><a title="Word Made Fresh: An Invitation to Poetry for the Church" rel="nofollow" href="https://a.co/d/hRWJYoa">Word Made Fresh: An Invitation to Poetry for the Church</a> &mdash; Have you ever read a book that turned your world upside down? What about a poem?  
 
Poetry has the power to enliven, challenge, change, and enrich our lives. But it can also feel intimidating, confusing, or simply “not for us.” In these joyful and wise reflections, Abram Van Engen shows readers how poetry is for everyone—and how it can reinvigorate our Christian faith. 
 
Intertwining close readings with personal storytelling, Van Engen explains how and why to read poems as a spiritual practice. Far from dry, academic instruction, his approach encourages readers to delight in poetry, even as they come to understand its form. He also opens up the meaning of poetry and parables in Scripture, revealing the deep connection between literature and theology. 
 
Word Made Fresh is more than a guide to poetry—it’s an invitation to wonder, to speak up, to lament, to praise. Including dozens of poems from diverse authors, this book will inspire curious and thoughtful readers to see God and God’s creation in surprising new ways.</li></ul>]]>
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  <title>Episode 70: Lauren Camp, Inner Planets</title>
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  <pubDate>Tue, 19 Mar 2024 08:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
  <author>Joanne Diaz and Abram Van Engen</author>
  <enclosure url="https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/d55a3bfc-6538-4214-882b-a389e71b4bf6/2ec061e5-c4da-4365-afd1-8d509068fa31.mp3" length="24730982" type="audio/mpeg"/>
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  <itunes:season>6</itunes:season>
  <itunes:author>Joanne Diaz and Abram Van Engen</itunes:author>
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  <itunes:duration>28:29</itunes:duration>
  <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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  <description>In this episode, Lauren Camp joins us to read and discuss "Inner Planets," a poem that she wrote during her time as the astronomer in residence at Grand Canyon National Park. She describes her poetic process and the value of solitude in a place full of wonderment. 
To learn more about the Grand Canyon Astronomer in Residence program, click here (https://www.grandcanyon.org/experience-grand-canyon/residency-program/astronomer-in-residence).
To learn more about Lauren Camp, visit her website (https://www.laurencamp.com/). 
Lauren's newest collection, In Old Sky (https://www.grandcanyon.org/products/grand-canyon-conservancy-in-old-sky-gc-poetry-book-10247), is a collection of the poems that were inspired by the Grand Canyon.  
</description>
  <itunes:keywords>21st century, free verse, poet laureate, nature poetry, night, wonder</itunes:keywords>
  <content:encoded>
    <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Lauren Camp joins us to read and discuss &quot;Inner Planets,&quot; a poem that she wrote during her time as the astronomer in residence at Grand Canyon National Park. She describes her poetic process and the value of solitude in a place full of wonderment. </p>

<p>To learn more about the Grand Canyon Astronomer in Residence program, click <a href="https://www.grandcanyon.org/experience-grand-canyon/residency-program/astronomer-in-residence" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p>

<p>To learn more about Lauren Camp, visit her <a href="https://www.laurencamp.com/" rel="nofollow">website</a>. </p>

<p>Lauren&#39;s newest collection, <em><a href="https://www.grandcanyon.org/products/grand-canyon-conservancy-in-old-sky-gc-poetry-book-10247" rel="nofollow">In Old Sky</a></em>, is a collection of the poems that were inspired by the Grand Canyon. </p>]]>
  </content:encoded>
  <itunes:summary>
    <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Lauren Camp joins us to read and discuss &quot;Inner Planets,&quot; a poem that she wrote during her time as the astronomer in residence at Grand Canyon National Park. She describes her poetic process and the value of solitude in a place full of wonderment. </p>

<p>To learn more about the Grand Canyon Astronomer in Residence program, click <a href="https://www.grandcanyon.org/experience-grand-canyon/residency-program/astronomer-in-residence" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p>

<p>To learn more about Lauren Camp, visit her <a href="https://www.laurencamp.com/" rel="nofollow">website</a>. </p>

<p>Lauren&#39;s newest collection, <em><a href="https://www.grandcanyon.org/products/grand-canyon-conservancy-in-old-sky-gc-poetry-book-10247" rel="nofollow">In Old Sky</a></em>, is a collection of the poems that were inspired by the Grand Canyon. </p>]]>
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  <title>Episode 69: Live with Marilyn Nelson!</title>
  <link>https://poetryforall.fireside.fm/69</link>
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  <pubDate>Sun, 11 Feb 2024 09:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
  <author>Joanne Diaz and Abram Van Engen</author>
  <enclosure url="https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/d55a3bfc-6538-4214-882b-a389e71b4bf6/e34d9b5f-adbe-4eeb-aa6c-38fb205a1215.mp3" length="67923806" type="audio/mpeg"/>
  <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
  <itunes:season>6</itunes:season>
  <itunes:author>Joanne Diaz and Abram Van Engen</itunes:author>
  <itunes:subtitle>Our first live performance of the podcast, featuring Marilyn Nelson and a discussion or her amazing poem "How I Discovered Poetry."</itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>55:17</itunes:duration>
  <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
  <itunes:image href="https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-images-2024/podcasts/images/d/d55a3bfc-6538-4214-882b-a389e71b4bf6/episodes/e/e34d9b5f-adbe-4eeb-aa6c-38fb205a1215/cover.jpg?v=2"/>
  <description>Our first live performance of the podcast, featuring Marilyn Nelson and a discussion or her amazing poem "How I Discovered Poetry."
On January 31, we met at Calvin University for its January Series and spoke with Marilyn Nelson about poetry and her work for a live audience.
For more on Marilyn Nelson, visit her website (https://marilyn-nelson.com/) or The Poetry Foundation (https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/marilyn-nelson).
This poem is the title poem of an extraordinary book called How I Discovered Poetry (https://a.co/d/6xrZVm9)
It was originally published in The Fields of Praise: New and Selected Poems (https://a.co/d/0iajt2m)
Thank you to LSU Press for permission to read and discussion this poem on our podcast. 
</description>
  <itunes:keywords>guest on the show, 21st century, sonnet, ars poetica, black history month, poet laureate, children, wonder, surprise, anger</itunes:keywords>
  <content:encoded>
    <![CDATA[<p>Our first live performance of the podcast, featuring Marilyn Nelson and a discussion or her amazing poem &quot;How I Discovered Poetry.&quot;</p>

<p>On January 31, we met at Calvin University for its January Series and spoke with Marilyn Nelson about poetry and her work for a live audience.</p>

<p>For more on Marilyn Nelson, visit <a href="https://marilyn-nelson.com/" rel="nofollow">her website</a> or <a href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/marilyn-nelson" rel="nofollow">The Poetry Foundation</a>.</p>

<p>This poem is the title poem of an extraordinary book called <em><a href="https://a.co/d/6xrZVm9" rel="nofollow">How I Discovered Poetry</a></em></p>

<p>It was originally published in <em><a href="https://a.co/d/0iajt2m" rel="nofollow">The Fields of Praise: New and Selected Poems</a></em></p>

<p>Thank you to LSU Press for permission to read and discussion this poem on our podcast.</p>]]>
  </content:encoded>
  <itunes:summary>
    <![CDATA[<p>Our first live performance of the podcast, featuring Marilyn Nelson and a discussion or her amazing poem &quot;How I Discovered Poetry.&quot;</p>

<p>On January 31, we met at Calvin University for its January Series and spoke with Marilyn Nelson about poetry and her work for a live audience.</p>

<p>For more on Marilyn Nelson, visit <a href="https://marilyn-nelson.com/" rel="nofollow">her website</a> or <a href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/marilyn-nelson" rel="nofollow">The Poetry Foundation</a>.</p>

<p>This poem is the title poem of an extraordinary book called <em><a href="https://a.co/d/6xrZVm9" rel="nofollow">How I Discovered Poetry</a></em></p>

<p>It was originally published in <em><a href="https://a.co/d/0iajt2m" rel="nofollow">The Fields of Praise: New and Selected Poems</a></em></p>

<p>Thank you to LSU Press for permission to read and discussion this poem on our podcast.</p>]]>
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  <title>Episode 68: W.S. Merwin, To the New Year</title>
  <link>https://poetryforall.fireside.fm/68</link>
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  <pubDate>Thu, 18 Jan 2024 15:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
  <author>Joanne Diaz and Abram Van Engen</author>
  <enclosure url="https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/d55a3bfc-6538-4214-882b-a389e71b4bf6/9e51bc84-85ce-4ca7-ab47-2e7c09899cb7.mp3" length="21168101" type="audio/mpeg"/>
  <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
  <itunes:season>6</itunes:season>
  <itunes:author>Joanne Diaz and Abram Van Engen</itunes:author>
  <itunes:subtitle>In the first episode of 2024, we read one of the great poets of the past century, W.S. Merwin, and his address to the new year, considering his attentiveness, his style, and his wondrous mood and mode of contemplation and surprise.</itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>22:48</itunes:duration>
  <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
  <itunes:image href="https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-images-2024/podcasts/images/d/d55a3bfc-6538-4214-882b-a389e71b4bf6/episodes/9/9e51bc84-85ce-4ca7-ab47-2e7c09899cb7/cover.jpg?v=1"/>
  <description>In the first episode of 2024, we read one of the great poets of the past century, W.S. Merwin, and his address to the new year, considering his attentiveness, his style, and his wondrous mood and mode of contemplation and surprise. Picking up on the "radical hope" we discussed in Dimitrov's "Winter Solstice," we turn to Merwin's sense of what is untouched but still possible as he greets the new year.
In this episode, we quote a few pieces from The New Yorker. Here they are, plus a few other resources.
"The Aesthetic Insight of W.S. Merwin (https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/09/18/the-ascetic-insight-of-w-s-merwin)" by Dan Chiasson
"The Final Prophecy of W.S. Merwin (https://www.newyorker.com/culture/postscript/the-final-prophecy-of-w-s-merwin)" by Dan Chiasson
"The Palm Trees and Poetry of W.S. Merwin (https://www.newyorker.com/books/page-turner/the-palm-trees-and-poetry-of-w-s-merwin)" by Casey Cep
"When You Go Away: Remembering W.S. Merwin (https://www.newyorker.com/books/page-turner/when-you-go-away-remembering-w-s-merwin)" by Kevin Young
See also The Poetry Foundation (https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/w-s-merwin).
The poem originally appeared in Present Company (https://www.coppercanyonpress.org/books/present-company-by-w-s-merwin/) (Copper Canyon Press, 2005). Thanks to the Wylie Agency for granting us permission to read this poem on the episode. 
</description>
  <itunes:keywords>21st century, Winter, Free verse, Ode, New Year’s Day, Poet laureate, Spirituality, Nature poetry, Hope, Wonder, Surprise</itunes:keywords>
  <content:encoded>
    <![CDATA[<p>In the first episode of 2024, we read one of the great poets of the past century, W.S. Merwin, and his address to the new year, considering his attentiveness, his style, and his wondrous mood and mode of contemplation and surprise. Picking up on the &quot;radical hope&quot; we discussed in Dimitrov&#39;s &quot;Winter Solstice,&quot; we turn to Merwin&#39;s sense of what is untouched but still possible as he greets the new year.</p>

<p>In this episode, we quote a few pieces from The New Yorker. Here they are, plus a few other resources.</p>

<p>&quot;<a href="https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/09/18/the-ascetic-insight-of-w-s-merwin" rel="nofollow">The Aesthetic Insight of W.S. Merwin</a>&quot; by Dan Chiasson</p>

<p>&quot;<a href="https://www.newyorker.com/culture/postscript/the-final-prophecy-of-w-s-merwin" rel="nofollow">The Final Prophecy of W.S. Merwin</a>&quot; by Dan Chiasson</p>

<p>&quot;<a href="https://www.newyorker.com/books/page-turner/the-palm-trees-and-poetry-of-w-s-merwin" rel="nofollow">The Palm Trees and Poetry of W.S. Merwin</a>&quot; by Casey Cep</p>

<p>&quot;<a href="https://www.newyorker.com/books/page-turner/when-you-go-away-remembering-w-s-merwin" rel="nofollow">When You Go Away: Remembering W.S. Merwin</a>&quot; by Kevin Young</p>

<p>See also <a href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/w-s-merwin" rel="nofollow">The Poetry Foundation</a>.</p>

<p>The poem originally appeared in <a href="https://www.coppercanyonpress.org/books/present-company-by-w-s-merwin/" rel="nofollow"><em>Present Company</em></a> (Copper Canyon Press, 2005). Thanks to the Wylie Agency for granting us permission to read this poem on the episode. </p>]]>
  </content:encoded>
  <itunes:summary>
    <![CDATA[<p>In the first episode of 2024, we read one of the great poets of the past century, W.S. Merwin, and his address to the new year, considering his attentiveness, his style, and his wondrous mood and mode of contemplation and surprise. Picking up on the &quot;radical hope&quot; we discussed in Dimitrov&#39;s &quot;Winter Solstice,&quot; we turn to Merwin&#39;s sense of what is untouched but still possible as he greets the new year.</p>

<p>In this episode, we quote a few pieces from The New Yorker. Here they are, plus a few other resources.</p>

<p>&quot;<a href="https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/09/18/the-ascetic-insight-of-w-s-merwin" rel="nofollow">The Aesthetic Insight of W.S. Merwin</a>&quot; by Dan Chiasson</p>

<p>&quot;<a href="https://www.newyorker.com/culture/postscript/the-final-prophecy-of-w-s-merwin" rel="nofollow">The Final Prophecy of W.S. Merwin</a>&quot; by Dan Chiasson</p>

<p>&quot;<a href="https://www.newyorker.com/books/page-turner/the-palm-trees-and-poetry-of-w-s-merwin" rel="nofollow">The Palm Trees and Poetry of W.S. Merwin</a>&quot; by Casey Cep</p>

<p>&quot;<a href="https://www.newyorker.com/books/page-turner/when-you-go-away-remembering-w-s-merwin" rel="nofollow">When You Go Away: Remembering W.S. Merwin</a>&quot; by Kevin Young</p>

<p>See also <a href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/w-s-merwin" rel="nofollow">The Poetry Foundation</a>.</p>

<p>The poem originally appeared in <a href="https://www.coppercanyonpress.org/books/present-company-by-w-s-merwin/" rel="nofollow"><em>Present Company</em></a> (Copper Canyon Press, 2005). Thanks to the Wylie Agency for granting us permission to read this poem on the episode. </p>]]>
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  <title>Episode 63: Rumi, Colorless, Nameless, Free</title>
  <link>https://poetryforall.fireside.fm/63</link>
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  <pubDate>Tue, 29 Aug 2023 18:30:00 -0400</pubDate>
  <author>Joanne Diaz and Abram Van Engen</author>
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  <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
  <itunes:season>6</itunes:season>
  <itunes:author>Joanne Diaz and Abram Van Engen</itunes:author>
  <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, poet and translator Haleh Liza Gafori joins us to closely read and discuss a poem by Jalāl al-Dīn Muḥammad Rūmī  (1207-1273 CE), one of the greatest of all Sufi poets. We discuss the poetic constraints of the ghazal form, Rumi's encounters with the divine, and the significance of his friendship with Shams, a man who transformed his life and poetic practice.

</itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>29:56</itunes:duration>
  <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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  <description>Poet and translator Haleh Liza Gafori joins us to closely read and discuss a poem by Jalāl al-Dīn Muḥammad Rūmī  (1207-1273 CE), one of the greatest of all Sufi poets. We discuss the poetic constraints of the ghazal form, Rumi's encounters with the divine, and the significance of his friendship with Shams, a man who transformed his life and poetic practice.
Haleh Liza Gafori's translations of Rumi's poetry appear in Gold (https://www.nyrb.com/products/gold) (NYRB Press, 2022). 
You can learn more about her work as a vocalist, poet, translator and performer here (https://www.halehliza.com/). 
To learn more about Rumi, visit the Poetry Foundation website (https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/jalal-al-din-rumi).
Cover photo from The Walters Art Museum  (https://art.thewalters.org/detail/77715/illuminated-preface-to-the-second-book-of-the-collection-of-poems-masnavi-2/) 
</description>
  <itunes:keywords>13th century, ghazal, guest on the show, islam, joy, poetry in translation, restlessness, rhymed verse, spirituality, surprise, wonder, world poetry</itunes:keywords>
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    <![CDATA[<p>Poet and translator Haleh Liza Gafori joins us to closely read and discuss a poem by Jalāl al-Dīn Muḥammad Rūmī  (1207-1273 CE), one of the greatest of all Sufi poets. We discuss the poetic constraints of the ghazal form, Rumi&#39;s encounters with the divine, and the significance of his friendship with Shams, a man who transformed his life and poetic practice.</p>

<p>Haleh Liza Gafori&#39;s translations of Rumi&#39;s poetry appear in <a href="https://www.nyrb.com/products/gold" rel="nofollow"><em>Gold</em></a> (NYRB Press, 2022). </p>

<p>You can learn more about her work as a vocalist, poet, translator and performer <a href="https://www.halehliza.com/" rel="nofollow">here</a>. </p>

<p>To learn more about Rumi, visit the <a href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/jalal-al-din-rumi" rel="nofollow">Poetry Foundation website</a>.</p>

<p>Cover photo from <a href="https://art.thewalters.org/detail/77715/illuminated-preface-to-the-second-book-of-the-collection-of-poems-masnavi-2/" rel="nofollow">The Walters Art Museum </a></p>]]>
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  <itunes:summary>
    <![CDATA[<p>Poet and translator Haleh Liza Gafori joins us to closely read and discuss a poem by Jalāl al-Dīn Muḥammad Rūmī  (1207-1273 CE), one of the greatest of all Sufi poets. We discuss the poetic constraints of the ghazal form, Rumi&#39;s encounters with the divine, and the significance of his friendship with Shams, a man who transformed his life and poetic practice.</p>

<p>Haleh Liza Gafori&#39;s translations of Rumi&#39;s poetry appear in <a href="https://www.nyrb.com/products/gold" rel="nofollow"><em>Gold</em></a> (NYRB Press, 2022). </p>

<p>You can learn more about her work as a vocalist, poet, translator and performer <a href="https://www.halehliza.com/" rel="nofollow">here</a>. </p>

<p>To learn more about Rumi, visit the <a href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/jalal-al-din-rumi" rel="nofollow">Poetry Foundation website</a>.</p>

<p>Cover photo from <a href="https://art.thewalters.org/detail/77715/illuminated-preface-to-the-second-book-of-the-collection-of-poems-masnavi-2/" rel="nofollow">The Walters Art Museum </a></p>]]>
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  <title>Episode 61: Ada Limón, "The Raincoat"</title>
  <link>https://poetryforall.fireside.fm/61</link>
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  <pubDate>Thu, 11 May 2023 13:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
  <author>Joanne Diaz and Abram Van Engen</author>
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  <itunes:author>Joanne Diaz and Abram Van Engen</itunes:author>
  <itunes:subtitle>With her quality of attention and focus on vivid, specific images, Ada Limón brings us to a moment of surprising insight in "The Raincoat."</itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>18:34</itunes:duration>
  <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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  <description>With her quality of attention and focus on vivid, specific images, Ada Limón brings us to a moment of surprising insight in "The Raincoat."
"The Raincoat" appears in Ada Limón's book The Carrying (https://milkweed.org/book/the-carrying) by Milkweed Editions. Thank you to Milkweed Editions for permission to read the poem on this podcast.
You can find the "The Raincoat" on the Poetry Foundation website (https://poets.org/poem/raincoat).
To learn more about Ada Limón, the 24th Poet Laureate of the United States, visit the Library of Congress website (https://guides.loc.gov/poet-laureate-ada-limon/activities-at-the-library).
Ada Limón's author website (https://www.adalimon.net/) includes information about her six books of poetry as well as interviews, press releases, and her calendar of events. 
Photo credit: Shawn Miller, Library of Congress
</description>
  <itunes:keywords>21st century, body in pain, children, free verse, gratitude, hispanic heritage month, love, mother's day, poet laureate, surprise, wonder</itunes:keywords>
  <content:encoded>
    <![CDATA[<p>With her quality of attention and focus on vivid, specific images, Ada Limón brings us to a moment of surprising insight in &quot;The Raincoat.&quot;</p>

<p>&quot;The Raincoat&quot; appears in Ada Limón&#39;s book <em><a href="https://milkweed.org/book/the-carrying" rel="nofollow">The Carrying</a></em> by Milkweed Editions. Thank you to Milkweed Editions for permission to read the poem on this podcast.</p>

<p>You can find the &quot;The Raincoat&quot; on the <a href="https://poets.org/poem/raincoat" rel="nofollow">Poetry Foundation website</a>.</p>

<p>To learn more about Ada Limón, the 24th Poet Laureate of the United States, visit the <a href="https://guides.loc.gov/poet-laureate-ada-limon/activities-at-the-library" rel="nofollow">Library of Congress website</a>.</p>

<p>Ada Limón&#39;s <a href="https://www.adalimon.net/" rel="nofollow">author website</a> includes information about her six books of poetry as well as interviews, press releases, and her calendar of events. </p>

<p>Photo credit: Shawn Miller, Library of Congress</p>]]>
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  <itunes:summary>
    <![CDATA[<p>With her quality of attention and focus on vivid, specific images, Ada Limón brings us to a moment of surprising insight in &quot;The Raincoat.&quot;</p>

<p>&quot;The Raincoat&quot; appears in Ada Limón&#39;s book <em><a href="https://milkweed.org/book/the-carrying" rel="nofollow">The Carrying</a></em> by Milkweed Editions. Thank you to Milkweed Editions for permission to read the poem on this podcast.</p>

<p>You can find the &quot;The Raincoat&quot; on the <a href="https://poets.org/poem/raincoat" rel="nofollow">Poetry Foundation website</a>.</p>

<p>To learn more about Ada Limón, the 24th Poet Laureate of the United States, visit the <a href="https://guides.loc.gov/poet-laureate-ada-limon/activities-at-the-library" rel="nofollow">Library of Congress website</a>.</p>

<p>Ada Limón&#39;s <a href="https://www.adalimon.net/" rel="nofollow">author website</a> includes information about her six books of poetry as well as interviews, press releases, and her calendar of events. </p>

<p>Photo credit: Shawn Miller, Library of Congress</p>]]>
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  <title>Episode 60: Li-Young Lee, From Blossoms</title>
  <link>https://poetryforall.fireside.fm/60</link>
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  <pubDate>Tue, 02 May 2023 09:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
  <author>Joanne Diaz and Abram Van Engen</author>
  <enclosure url="https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/d55a3bfc-6538-4214-882b-a389e71b4bf6/82015254-6db7-45ba-8a76-0c0134dd0c8d.mp3" length="14930673" type="audio/mpeg"/>
  <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
  <itunes:season>5</itunes:season>
  <itunes:author>Joanne Diaz and Abram Van Engen</itunes:author>
  <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, we explore the poetry of joy in a world of shade and death, looking to sounds and repetitions while examining how "From Blossoms" speaks back to the poem that immediately precedes it in Lee's great book "Rose." </itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>19:07</itunes:duration>
  <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
  <itunes:image href="https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-images-2024/podcasts/images/d/d55a3bfc-6538-4214-882b-a389e71b4bf6/episodes/8/82015254-6db7-45ba-8a76-0c0134dd0c8d/cover.jpg?v=2"/>
  <description>In this episode, we explore the poetry of joy in a world of shade and death, looking to sounds and repetitions while examining how "From Blossoms" speaks back to the poem that immediately precedes it in Lee's great book Rose.
For more on Li-Young Lee, see The Poetry Foundation here (https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/li-young-lee).
Thanks to BOA Editions for granting us permission to read Li-Young Lee's work on our podcast. "From Blossoms (https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/43012/from-blossoms)" and "The Weight of Sweetness (https://poets.org/poem/weight-sweetness)" originally appeared in Rose (https://www.boaeditions.org/products/rose) (BOA Editions, 1986).  
</description>
  <itunes:keywords>20th century, asian american and pacific islander month, free verse, gratitude, joy, repetition or refrain, summer, wonder</itunes:keywords>
  <content:encoded>
    <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we explore the poetry of joy in a world of shade and death, looking to sounds and repetitions while examining how &quot;From Blossoms&quot; speaks back to the poem that immediately precedes it in Lee&#39;s great book <em>Rose.</em></p>

<p>For more on Li-Young Lee, see The Poetry Foundation <a href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/li-young-lee" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p>

<p>Thanks to BOA Editions for granting us permission to read Li-Young Lee&#39;s work on our podcast. &quot;<a href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/43012/from-blossoms" rel="nofollow">From Blossoms</a>&quot; and &quot;<a href="https://poets.org/poem/weight-sweetness" rel="nofollow">The Weight of Sweetness</a>&quot; originally appeared in <em><a href="https://www.boaeditions.org/products/rose" rel="nofollow">Rose</a></em> (BOA Editions, 1986). </p>]]>
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  <itunes:summary>
    <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we explore the poetry of joy in a world of shade and death, looking to sounds and repetitions while examining how &quot;From Blossoms&quot; speaks back to the poem that immediately precedes it in Lee&#39;s great book <em>Rose.</em></p>

<p>For more on Li-Young Lee, see The Poetry Foundation <a href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/li-young-lee" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p>

<p>Thanks to BOA Editions for granting us permission to read Li-Young Lee&#39;s work on our podcast. &quot;<a href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/43012/from-blossoms" rel="nofollow">From Blossoms</a>&quot; and &quot;<a href="https://poets.org/poem/weight-sweetness" rel="nofollow">The Weight of Sweetness</a>&quot; originally appeared in <em><a href="https://www.boaeditions.org/products/rose" rel="nofollow">Rose</a></em> (BOA Editions, 1986). </p>]]>
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  <title>Episode 55: Kay Ryan, Crib</title>
  <link>https://poetryforall.fireside.fm/55</link>
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  <pubDate>Mon, 19 Dec 2022 10:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
  <author>Joanne Diaz and Abram Van Engen</author>
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  <itunes:season>5</itunes:season>
  <itunes:author>Joanne Diaz and Abram Van Engen</itunes:author>
  <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, we discuss Kay Ryan's "Crib," a brief poem that begins with an interest in the deep archaeology of language and shifts to a powerful meditation on theft, innocence, and guilt. </itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>17:17</itunes:duration>
  <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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  <description>In this episode, we discuss Kay Ryan's "Crib," a brief poem that begins with an interest in the deep archaeology of language and shifts to a powerful meditation on theft, innocence, and guilt. 
"Crib" appears in The Best of It © 2010 by Kay Ryan.  Used by permissions of Grove/Atlantic, Inc. 
For more on Kay Ryan and her work, you can visit the Poetry Foundation (https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/kay-ryan) website.
Our favorite interview with Kay Ryan appears in the Paris Review (https://www.theparisreview.org/interviews/5889/the-art-of-poetry-no-94-kay-ryan).
</description>
  <itunes:keywords>20th century, advent/christmas, free verse, lgbtqia month, poet laureate, rhymed verse, wonder</itunes:keywords>
  <content:encoded>
    <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss Kay Ryan&#39;s &quot;Crib,&quot; a brief poem that begins with an interest in the deep archaeology of language and shifts to a powerful meditation on theft, innocence, and guilt. </p>

<p>&quot;Crib&quot; appears in <em>The Best of It</em> © 2010 by Kay Ryan.  Used by permissions of Grove/Atlantic, Inc. </p>

<p>For more on Kay Ryan and her work, you can visit the <a href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/kay-ryan" rel="nofollow">Poetry Foundation</a> website.</p>

<p>Our favorite interview with Kay Ryan appears in the <em><a href="https://www.theparisreview.org/interviews/5889/the-art-of-poetry-no-94-kay-ryan" rel="nofollow">Paris Review</a>.</em></p>]]>
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  <itunes:summary>
    <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss Kay Ryan&#39;s &quot;Crib,&quot; a brief poem that begins with an interest in the deep archaeology of language and shifts to a powerful meditation on theft, innocence, and guilt. </p>

<p>&quot;Crib&quot; appears in <em>The Best of It</em> © 2010 by Kay Ryan.  Used by permissions of Grove/Atlantic, Inc. </p>

<p>For more on Kay Ryan and her work, you can visit the <a href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/kay-ryan" rel="nofollow">Poetry Foundation</a> website.</p>

<p>Our favorite interview with Kay Ryan appears in the <em><a href="https://www.theparisreview.org/interviews/5889/the-art-of-poetry-no-94-kay-ryan" rel="nofollow">Paris Review</a>.</em></p>]]>
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  <title>Episode 50: Rafael Campo, Primary Care</title>
  <link>https://poetryforall.fireside.fm/50</link>
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  <pubDate>Mon, 26 Sep 2022 10:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
  <author>Joanne Diaz and Abram Van Engen</author>
  <enclosure url="https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/d55a3bfc-6538-4214-882b-a389e71b4bf6/54ff6502-605c-4e66-8030-40d7e5b6cd77.mp3" length="17486930" type="audio/mpeg"/>
  <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
  <itunes:season>5</itunes:season>
  <itunes:author>Joanne Diaz and Abram Van Engen</itunes:author>
  <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, we discuss how Rafael Campo, a practicing physician, uses blank verse to explore the experience of illness and suffering. </itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>22:24</itunes:duration>
  <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
  <itunes:image href="https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-images-2024/podcasts/images/d/d55a3bfc-6538-4214-882b-a389e71b4bf6/episodes/5/54ff6502-605c-4e66-8030-40d7e5b6cd77/cover.jpg?v=1"/>
  <description>In this episode, we discuss how Rafael Campo, a practicing physician, uses blank verse to explore the experience of illness and suffering.
Thanks to the Georges Borchardt, Inc. for granting us permission to read this poem. You can find "Primary Care" in Alternative Medicine (Duke University Press, 2013).  
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  <itunes:keywords>21st century, aging, blank verse, body in pain, gratitude, hispanic heritage month, repetition or refrain, science and medicine, spirituality, wonder</itunes:keywords>
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    <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss how Rafael Campo, a practicing physician, uses blank verse to explore the experience of illness and suffering.</p>

<p>Thanks to the Georges Borchardt, Inc. for granting us permission to read this poem. You can find &quot;Primary Care&quot; in <em>Alternative Medicine</em> (Duke University Press, 2013). </p><p>Links:</p><ul><li><a title="Campo reads Primary Care" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hltjf8H3WJI">Campo reads Primary Care</a></li><li><a title="Campo Author Page" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.rafaelcampo.com/">Campo Author Page</a></li><li><a title="Campo at the Poetry Foundation" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/rafael-campo">Campo at the Poetry Foundation</a></li></ul>]]>
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  <itunes:summary>
    <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss how Rafael Campo, a practicing physician, uses blank verse to explore the experience of illness and suffering.</p>

<p>Thanks to the Georges Borchardt, Inc. for granting us permission to read this poem. You can find &quot;Primary Care&quot; in <em>Alternative Medicine</em> (Duke University Press, 2013). </p><p>Links:</p><ul><li><a title="Campo reads Primary Care" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hltjf8H3WJI">Campo reads Primary Care</a></li><li><a title="Campo Author Page" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.rafaelcampo.com/">Campo Author Page</a></li><li><a title="Campo at the Poetry Foundation" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/rafael-campo">Campo at the Poetry Foundation</a></li></ul>]]>
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  <title>Episode 47: Walt Whitman, Leaves of Grass</title>
  <link>https://poetryforall.fireside.fm/47</link>
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  <pubDate>Fri, 22 Apr 2022 12:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
  <author>Joanne Diaz and Abram Van Engen</author>
  <enclosure url="https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/d55a3bfc-6538-4214-882b-a389e71b4bf6/ff2b3c76-2f14-4292-87a3-41e34909d0ea.mp3" length="19625015" type="audio/mpeg"/>
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  <itunes:season>4</itunes:season>
  <itunes:author>Joanne Diaz and Abram Van Engen</itunes:author>
  <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, Christopher Hanlon joins us to discuss an excerpt from Walt Whitman's Leaves of Grass. We discuss the poem's prophetic voice, its patterns of repetition, the connective tissue that binds his ideas and invites readers in, and the cultural context in which Whitman produced his work.</itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>26:39</itunes:duration>
  <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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  <description>In this episode, Christopher Hanlon joins us to discuss an excerpt from Walt Whitman's Leaves of Grass. We discuss the poem's prophetic voice, its patterns of repetition, the connective tissue that binds his ideas and invites readers in, and the cultural context in which Whitman produced his work.
To read the text of this poem, click here (https://poets.org/poem/song-myself-6-child-said-what-grass) or see below:
To learn more about Walt Whitman and his work, visit the Walt Whitman Archive (https://whitmanarchive.org/), a magnificent compendium of information about Whitman's life, cultural context, and editions of Leaves of Grass.
To learn more about scholar Christopher Hanlon, click here (https://newcollege.asu.edu/christopher-hanlon).
Text from Leaves of Grass:
A child said What is the grass? fetching it to me with full hands; 
How could I answer the child? I do not know what it is any more than he. 
I guess it must be the flag of my disposition, out of hopeful green stuff woven. 
Or I guess it is the handkerchief of the Lord, 
A scented gift and remembrancer designedly dropt, 
Bearing the owner's name someway in the corners, that we may see and remark, and say Whose? 
Or I guess the grass is itself a child, the produced babe of the vegetation. 
Or I guess it is a uniform hieroglyphic, 
And it means, Sprouting alike in broad zones and narrow zones, 
Growing among black folks as among white, 
Kanuck, Tuckahoe, Congressman, Cuff, I give them the same, I receive them the same. 
And now it seems to me the beautiful uncut hair of graves. 
Tenderly will I use you curling grass, 
It may be you transpire from the breasts of young men, 
It may be you are from old people, or from offspring taken,
It may be if I had known them I would have loved them, soon out of their mothers' laps, 
And here you are the mothers' laps. 
This grass is very dark to be from the white heads of old mothers, 
Darker than the colorless beards of old men, 
Dark to come from under the faint red roofs of mouths. 
O I perceive after all so many uttering tongues, 
And I perceive they do not come from the roofs of mouths for nothing. 
I wish I could translate the hints about the dead young men and women, 
And the hints about old men and mothers, and the offspring taken soon out of their laps. 
What do you think has become of the young and old men? 
And what do you think has become of the women and children? 
They are alive and well somewhere, 
The smallest sprout shows there is really no death, 
And if ever there was it led forward life, and does not wait at the end to arrest it, 
And ceas'd the moment life appear'd. 
All goes onward and outward, nothing collapses, 
And to die is different from what any one supposed, and luckier. 
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  <itunes:keywords>19th century, ars poetica, children, free verse, guest on the show, nature poetry, repetition or refrain, spirituality, wonder</itunes:keywords>
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    <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Christopher Hanlon joins us to discuss an excerpt from Walt Whitman&#39;s Leaves of Grass. We discuss the poem&#39;s prophetic voice, its patterns of repetition, the connective tissue that binds his ideas and invites readers in, and the cultural context in which Whitman produced his work.</p>

<p>To read the text of this poem, click <a href="https://poets.org/poem/song-myself-6-child-said-what-grass" rel="nofollow">here</a> or see below:</p>

<p>To learn more about Walt Whitman and his work, visit the <a href="https://whitmanarchive.org/" rel="nofollow">Walt Whitman Archive</a>, a magnificent compendium of information about Whitman&#39;s life, cultural context, and editions of <em>Leaves of Grass.</em></p>

<p>To learn more about scholar Christopher Hanlon, click <a href="https://newcollege.asu.edu/christopher-hanlon" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p>

<p><strong>Text from Leaves of Grass:</strong></p>

<p>A child said <em>What is the grass?</em> fetching it to me with full hands; <br>
How could I answer the child? I do not know what it is any more than he. <br>
I guess it must be the flag of my disposition, out of hopeful green stuff woven. </p>

<p>Or I guess it is the handkerchief of the Lord, <br>
A scented gift and remembrancer designedly dropt, <br>
Bearing the owner&#39;s name someway in the corners, that we may see and remark, and say <em>Whose?</em> </p>

<p>Or I guess the grass is itself a child, the produced babe of the vegetation. </p>

<p>Or I guess it is a uniform hieroglyphic, <br>
And it means, Sprouting alike in broad zones and narrow zones, <br>
Growing among black folks as among white, <br>
Kanuck, Tuckahoe, Congressman, Cuff, I give them the same, I receive them the same. </p>

<p>And now it seems to me the beautiful uncut hair of graves. </p>

<p>Tenderly will I use you curling grass, <br>
It may be you transpire from the breasts of young men, <br>
It may be you are from old people, or from offspring taken,<br>
It may be if I had known them I would have loved them, soon out of their mothers&#39; laps, <br>
And here you are the mothers&#39; laps. </p>

<p>This grass is very dark to be from the white heads of old mothers, <br>
Darker than the colorless beards of old men, <br>
Dark to come from under the faint red roofs of mouths. </p>

<p>O I perceive after all so many uttering tongues, <br>
And I perceive they do not come from the roofs of mouths for nothing. </p>

<p>I wish I could translate the hints about the dead young men and women, <br>
And the hints about old men and mothers, and the offspring taken soon out of their laps. <br>
What do you think has become of the young and old men? <br>
And what do you think has become of the women and children? </p>

<p>They are alive and well somewhere, <br>
The smallest sprout shows there is really no death, <br>
And if ever there was it led forward life, and does not wait at the end to arrest it, <br>
And ceas&#39;d the moment life appear&#39;d. </p>

<p>All goes onward and outward, nothing collapses, <br>
And to die is different from what any one supposed, and luckier.</p>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Christopher Hanlon joins us to discuss an excerpt from Walt Whitman&#39;s Leaves of Grass. We discuss the poem&#39;s prophetic voice, its patterns of repetition, the connective tissue that binds his ideas and invites readers in, and the cultural context in which Whitman produced his work.</p>

<p>To read the text of this poem, click <a href="https://poets.org/poem/song-myself-6-child-said-what-grass" rel="nofollow">here</a> or see below:</p>

<p>To learn more about Walt Whitman and his work, visit the <a href="https://whitmanarchive.org/" rel="nofollow">Walt Whitman Archive</a>, a magnificent compendium of information about Whitman&#39;s life, cultural context, and editions of <em>Leaves of Grass.</em></p>

<p>To learn more about scholar Christopher Hanlon, click <a href="https://newcollege.asu.edu/christopher-hanlon" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p>

<p><strong>Text from Leaves of Grass:</strong></p>

<p>A child said <em>What is the grass?</em> fetching it to me with full hands; <br>
How could I answer the child? I do not know what it is any more than he. <br>
I guess it must be the flag of my disposition, out of hopeful green stuff woven. </p>

<p>Or I guess it is the handkerchief of the Lord, <br>
A scented gift and remembrancer designedly dropt, <br>
Bearing the owner&#39;s name someway in the corners, that we may see and remark, and say <em>Whose?</em> </p>

<p>Or I guess the grass is itself a child, the produced babe of the vegetation. </p>

<p>Or I guess it is a uniform hieroglyphic, <br>
And it means, Sprouting alike in broad zones and narrow zones, <br>
Growing among black folks as among white, <br>
Kanuck, Tuckahoe, Congressman, Cuff, I give them the same, I receive them the same. </p>

<p>And now it seems to me the beautiful uncut hair of graves. </p>

<p>Tenderly will I use you curling grass, <br>
It may be you transpire from the breasts of young men, <br>
It may be you are from old people, or from offspring taken,<br>
It may be if I had known them I would have loved them, soon out of their mothers&#39; laps, <br>
And here you are the mothers&#39; laps. </p>

<p>This grass is very dark to be from the white heads of old mothers, <br>
Darker than the colorless beards of old men, <br>
Dark to come from under the faint red roofs of mouths. </p>

<p>O I perceive after all so many uttering tongues, <br>
And I perceive they do not come from the roofs of mouths for nothing. </p>

<p>I wish I could translate the hints about the dead young men and women, <br>
And the hints about old men and mothers, and the offspring taken soon out of their laps. <br>
What do you think has become of the young and old men? <br>
And what do you think has become of the women and children? </p>

<p>They are alive and well somewhere, <br>
The smallest sprout shows there is really no death, <br>
And if ever there was it led forward life, and does not wait at the end to arrest it, <br>
And ceas&#39;d the moment life appear&#39;d. </p>

<p>All goes onward and outward, nothing collapses, <br>
And to die is different from what any one supposed, and luckier.</p>]]>
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  <title>Episode 46: Lucille Clifton, spring song</title>
  <link>https://poetryforall.fireside.fm/46</link>
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  <pubDate>Wed, 13 Apr 2022 11:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
  <author>Joanne Diaz and Abram Van Engen</author>
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  <itunes:subtitle>Lucille Clifton (1936-2010) was one of the most powerful poets of the twentieth century. This joyful poem caps a sequence of sixteen poems called "some jesus," which walks through biblical characters (beginning with Adam and Eve) and ends on four poems for Holy Week and Easter.</itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>17:35</itunes:duration>
  <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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  <description>Lucille Clifton (1936-2010) was one of the most powerful poets of the twentieth century. This joyful poem caps a sequence of sixteen poems called "some jesus," which walks through biblical characters (beginning with Adam and Eve) and ends on four poems for Holy Week and Easter. She wrote other poems on the Bible as well, including "john (https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/54586/john-56d2351ad543b)" and "my dream about the second coming (https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/46667/my-dream-about-the-second-coming)," which reimagine a way into biblical characters to make their stories fresh.
Clifton wrote from the perspective of a Black woman and many of her most famous poems address race and gender. Clear-eyed about struggles and hardships, insistent in her calls for justice and equality, Clifton's poetry carries a consistent joy and hope, which is apparent (and abundant) in "spring song."
Clifton's poetry was known for its lean style, paring everything down to its essential elements. In addition to award-winning collections of poetry, Clifton also wrote sixteen books for children (and had six children herself).
For the text of "spring song," and for a recording of Lucille Clifton reading it, see The Poetry Foundation (https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/54587/spring-song-56d2351b45223).
For more on Lucille Clifton see her biography (https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/lucille-clifton) at The Poetry Foundation.
For an introduction to Lucille Clifton, see the poem sampler "Lucille Clifton 101 (https://www.poetryfoundation.org/articles/155348/lucille-clifton-101)" by Benjamin Voigt. 
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  <itunes:keywords>20th century, black history month, christianity, easter, free verse, hope, joy, love, repetition or refrain, spring, wonder</itunes:keywords>
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    <![CDATA[<p>Lucille Clifton (1936-2010) was one of the most powerful poets of the twentieth century. This joyful poem caps a sequence of sixteen poems called &quot;some jesus,&quot; which walks through biblical characters (beginning with Adam and Eve) and ends on four poems for Holy Week and Easter. She wrote other poems on the Bible as well, including &quot;<a href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/54586/john-56d2351ad543b" rel="nofollow">john</a>&quot; and &quot;<a href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/46667/my-dream-about-the-second-coming" rel="nofollow">my dream about the second coming</a>,&quot; which reimagine a way into biblical characters to make their stories fresh.</p>

<p>Clifton wrote from the perspective of a Black woman and many of her most famous poems address race and gender. Clear-eyed about struggles and hardships, insistent in her calls for justice and equality, Clifton&#39;s poetry carries a consistent joy and hope, which is apparent (and abundant) in &quot;spring song.&quot;</p>

<p>Clifton&#39;s poetry was known for its lean style, paring everything down to its essential elements. In addition to award-winning collections of poetry, Clifton also wrote sixteen books for children (and had six children herself).</p>

<p>For the text of &quot;spring song,&quot; and for a recording of Lucille Clifton reading it, see <a href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/54587/spring-song-56d2351b45223" rel="nofollow">The Poetry Foundation</a>.</p>

<p>For more on Lucille Clifton see <a href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/lucille-clifton" rel="nofollow">her biography</a> at The Poetry Foundation.</p>

<p>For an introduction to Lucille Clifton, see the poem sampler &quot;<a href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/articles/155348/lucille-clifton-101" rel="nofollow">Lucille Clifton 101</a>&quot; by Benjamin Voigt.</p><p>Links:</p><ul><li><a title="spring song by Lucille Clifton | Poetry Foundation" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/54587/spring-song-56d2351b45223">spring song by Lucille Clifton | Poetry Foundation</a></li><li><a title="Poetry Foundation" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/lucille-clifton">Poetry Foundation</a></li><li><a title="About Lucille Clifton | Academy of American Poets" rel="nofollow" href="https://poets.org/poet/lucille-clifton">About Lucille Clifton | Academy of American Poets</a></li><li><a title="Lucille Clifton 101 by Benjamin Voigt | Poetry Foundation" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/articles/155348/lucille-clifton-101">Lucille Clifton 101 by Benjamin Voigt | Poetry Foundation</a></li></ul>]]>
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  <itunes:summary>
    <![CDATA[<p>Lucille Clifton (1936-2010) was one of the most powerful poets of the twentieth century. This joyful poem caps a sequence of sixteen poems called &quot;some jesus,&quot; which walks through biblical characters (beginning with Adam and Eve) and ends on four poems for Holy Week and Easter. She wrote other poems on the Bible as well, including &quot;<a href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/54586/john-56d2351ad543b" rel="nofollow">john</a>&quot; and &quot;<a href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/46667/my-dream-about-the-second-coming" rel="nofollow">my dream about the second coming</a>,&quot; which reimagine a way into biblical characters to make their stories fresh.</p>

<p>Clifton wrote from the perspective of a Black woman and many of her most famous poems address race and gender. Clear-eyed about struggles and hardships, insistent in her calls for justice and equality, Clifton&#39;s poetry carries a consistent joy and hope, which is apparent (and abundant) in &quot;spring song.&quot;</p>

<p>Clifton&#39;s poetry was known for its lean style, paring everything down to its essential elements. In addition to award-winning collections of poetry, Clifton also wrote sixteen books for children (and had six children herself).</p>

<p>For the text of &quot;spring song,&quot; and for a recording of Lucille Clifton reading it, see <a href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/54587/spring-song-56d2351b45223" rel="nofollow">The Poetry Foundation</a>.</p>

<p>For more on Lucille Clifton see <a href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/lucille-clifton" rel="nofollow">her biography</a> at The Poetry Foundation.</p>

<p>For an introduction to Lucille Clifton, see the poem sampler &quot;<a href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/articles/155348/lucille-clifton-101" rel="nofollow">Lucille Clifton 101</a>&quot; by Benjamin Voigt.</p><p>Links:</p><ul><li><a title="spring song by Lucille Clifton | Poetry Foundation" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/54587/spring-song-56d2351b45223">spring song by Lucille Clifton | Poetry Foundation</a></li><li><a title="Poetry Foundation" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/lucille-clifton">Poetry Foundation</a></li><li><a title="About Lucille Clifton | Academy of American Poets" rel="nofollow" href="https://poets.org/poet/lucille-clifton">About Lucille Clifton | Academy of American Poets</a></li><li><a title="Lucille Clifton 101 by Benjamin Voigt | Poetry Foundation" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/articles/155348/lucille-clifton-101">Lucille Clifton 101 by Benjamin Voigt | Poetry Foundation</a></li></ul>]]>
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  <title>Episode 43: Margaret Noodin, What the Peepers Say</title>
  <link>https://poetryforall.fireside.fm/43</link>
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  <pubDate>Wed, 02 Mar 2022 15:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
  <author>Joanne Diaz and Abram Van Engen</author>
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  <itunes:season>4</itunes:season>
  <itunes:author>Joanne Diaz and Abram Van Engen</itunes:author>
  <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, Margaret Noodin joins us to discuss her poem "What the Peepers Say." In our conversation, we talk about Margaret's writing in both Anishinaabemowin and English, her attention to sounds and rhythms, and what the peeper--a tiny springtime frog--can teach us about presence and listening.</itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>24:22</itunes:duration>
  <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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  <description>In this episode, Margaret Noodin joins us to discuss her poem "What the Peepers Say." In our conversation, we talk about Margaret's writing in both Anishinaabemowin and English, her attention to sounds and rhythms, and what the peeper--a tiny springtime frog--can teach us about presence and listening.
Margaret Noodin (https://uwm.edu/english/our-people/noodin-margaret/) is the author of two bilingual collections of poetry in both Anishinaabemowin and English: Weweni (https://www.wsupress.wayne.edu/books/detail/weweni) and What the Chickadee Knows (https://www.wsupress.wayne.edu/books/detail/what-chickadee-knows#:~:text=What%20the%20Chickadee%20Knows%20is,one%20another%20on%20facing%20pages.). She is a professor of English and American Indian Studies at the University of Wisconsin–Milwaukee, where she also serves as director of the Electa Quinney Institute for American Indian Education. 
To learn more about Ahishinaabemowin, visit ojibwe.net (https://ojibwe.net/).
To hear the sound of the spring peeper, click on this link (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_L7Ha6uwQA). 
Photo of Margaret Noodin © Troye Fox.
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  <itunes:keywords>21st century, alliterative verse, free verse, guest on the show, native american heritage month, nature poetry, poetry in translation, repetition or refrain, spirituality, spring, wonder</itunes:keywords>
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    <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Margaret Noodin joins us to discuss her poem &quot;What the Peepers Say.&quot; In our conversation, we talk about Margaret&#39;s writing in both Anishinaabemowin and English, her attention to sounds and rhythms, and what the peeper--a tiny springtime frog--can teach us about presence and listening.</p>

<p><a href="https://uwm.edu/english/our-people/noodin-margaret/" rel="nofollow">Margaret Noodin</a> is the author of two bilingual collections of poetry in both Anishinaabemowin and English: <em><a href="https://www.wsupress.wayne.edu/books/detail/weweni" rel="nofollow">Weweni</a></em> and <em><a href="https://www.wsupress.wayne.edu/books/detail/what-chickadee-knows#:%7E:text=What%20the%20Chickadee%20Knows%20is,one%20another%20on%20facing%20pages." rel="nofollow">What the Chickadee Knows</a>.</em> She is a professor of English and American Indian Studies at the University of Wisconsin–Milwaukee, where she also serves as director of the Electa Quinney Institute for American Indian Education. </p>

<p>To learn more about Ahishinaabemowin, visit <a href="https://ojibwe.net/" rel="nofollow">ojibwe.net</a>.</p>

<p>To hear the sound of the spring peeper, click on <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_L7Ha6uwQA" rel="nofollow">this link</a>. </p>

<p>Photo of Margaret Noodin © Troye Fox.</p>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Margaret Noodin joins us to discuss her poem &quot;What the Peepers Say.&quot; In our conversation, we talk about Margaret&#39;s writing in both Anishinaabemowin and English, her attention to sounds and rhythms, and what the peeper--a tiny springtime frog--can teach us about presence and listening.</p>

<p><a href="https://uwm.edu/english/our-people/noodin-margaret/" rel="nofollow">Margaret Noodin</a> is the author of two bilingual collections of poetry in both Anishinaabemowin and English: <em><a href="https://www.wsupress.wayne.edu/books/detail/weweni" rel="nofollow">Weweni</a></em> and <em><a href="https://www.wsupress.wayne.edu/books/detail/what-chickadee-knows#:%7E:text=What%20the%20Chickadee%20Knows%20is,one%20another%20on%20facing%20pages." rel="nofollow">What the Chickadee Knows</a>.</em> She is a professor of English and American Indian Studies at the University of Wisconsin–Milwaukee, where she also serves as director of the Electa Quinney Institute for American Indian Education. </p>

<p>To learn more about Ahishinaabemowin, visit <a href="https://ojibwe.net/" rel="nofollow">ojibwe.net</a>.</p>

<p>To hear the sound of the spring peeper, click on <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_L7Ha6uwQA" rel="nofollow">this link</a>. </p>

<p>Photo of Margaret Noodin © Troye Fox.</p>]]>
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  <title>Episode 36: Denise Levertov, On the Mystery of the Incarnation</title>
  <link>https://poetryforall.fireside.fm/36</link>
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  <pubDate>Tue, 21 Dec 2021 10:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
  <author>Joanne Diaz and Abram Van Engen</author>
  <enclosure url="https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/d55a3bfc-6538-4214-882b-a389e71b4bf6/56487ce3-6cc9-4743-b9a8-f52af20aa8c4.mp3" length="14919315" type="audio/mpeg"/>
  <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
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  <itunes:author>Joanne Diaz and Abram Van Engen</itunes:author>
  <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, we discuss Denise Levertov's powerful meditation on the horrors of the twentieth century, and how the mystery of the incarnation might provide humanity with hope.</itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>16:42</itunes:duration>
  <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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  <description>In this episode, we discuss Denise Levertov's powerful meditation on the horrors of the twentieth century, and how the mystery of the incarnation might provide humanity with some hope. Our close reading of this poem is informed by Eavan Boland's Preface and Anne Dewey and Paul A. Lacey's Afterword in  The Collected Poems of Denise Levertov (New Directions, 2013). 
To read "On the Mystery of the Incarnation," click here (https://allpoetry.com/On-The-Mystery-Of-The-Incarnation). 
To read Levertov's essay "Some Notes on Organic Form," click here (https://www.poetryfoundation.org/articles/69392/some-notes-on-organic-form-56d249032078f).
''On the Mystery of the Incarnation'' by Denise Levertov comes from her book A DOOR IN THE HIVE, copyright ©1989 by Denise Levertov. Used by permission of New Directions Publishing Corp. 
Photo of Denise Levertov © David Geier. For more information see National Portrait Gallery at The Smithsonian Institution: https://npg.si.edu/object/npg_NPG.2011.103 
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  <itunes:keywords>20th century, advent/christmas, free verse, wonder</itunes:keywords>
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    <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss Denise Levertov&#39;s powerful meditation on the horrors of the twentieth century, and how the mystery of the incarnation might provide humanity with some hope. Our close reading of this poem is informed by Eavan Boland&#39;s Preface and Anne Dewey and Paul A. Lacey&#39;s Afterword in  <em>The Collected Poems of Denise Levertov</em> (New Directions, 2013). </p>

<p>To read &quot;On the Mystery of the Incarnation,&quot; click <a href="https://allpoetry.com/On-The-Mystery-Of-The-Incarnation" rel="nofollow">here</a>. </p>

<p>To read Levertov&#39;s essay &quot;Some Notes on Organic Form,&quot; click <a href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/articles/69392/some-notes-on-organic-form-56d249032078f" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p>

<p>&#39;&#39;On the Mystery of the Incarnation&#39;&#39; by Denise Levertov comes from her book A DOOR IN THE HIVE, copyright ©1989 by Denise Levertov. Used by permission of New Directions Publishing Corp. </p>

<p>Photo of Denise Levertov © David Geier. For more information see National Portrait Gallery at The Smithsonian Institution: <a href="https://npg.si.edu/object/npg_NPG.2011.103" rel="nofollow">https://npg.si.edu/object/npg_NPG.2011.103</a></p>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss Denise Levertov&#39;s powerful meditation on the horrors of the twentieth century, and how the mystery of the incarnation might provide humanity with some hope. Our close reading of this poem is informed by Eavan Boland&#39;s Preface and Anne Dewey and Paul A. Lacey&#39;s Afterword in  <em>The Collected Poems of Denise Levertov</em> (New Directions, 2013). </p>

<p>To read &quot;On the Mystery of the Incarnation,&quot; click <a href="https://allpoetry.com/On-The-Mystery-Of-The-Incarnation" rel="nofollow">here</a>. </p>

<p>To read Levertov&#39;s essay &quot;Some Notes on Organic Form,&quot; click <a href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/articles/69392/some-notes-on-organic-form-56d249032078f" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p>

<p>&#39;&#39;On the Mystery of the Incarnation&#39;&#39; by Denise Levertov comes from her book A DOOR IN THE HIVE, copyright ©1989 by Denise Levertov. Used by permission of New Directions Publishing Corp. </p>

<p>Photo of Denise Levertov © David Geier. For more information see National Portrait Gallery at The Smithsonian Institution: <a href="https://npg.si.edu/object/npg_NPG.2011.103" rel="nofollow">https://npg.si.edu/object/npg_NPG.2011.103</a></p>]]>
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  <title>Episode 35: Matthew Zapruder, Poem for Wisconsin</title>
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  <pubDate>Wed, 15 Dec 2021 12:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
  <author>Joanne Diaz and Abram Van Engen</author>
  <enclosure url="https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/d55a3bfc-6538-4214-882b-a389e71b4bf6/a76b112a-fcab-4e78-ac77-595fd2fabd09.mp3" length="19617161" type="audio/mpeg"/>
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  <itunes:author>Joanne Diaz and Abram Van Engen</itunes:author>
  <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, we discuss the way in which Matthew Zapruder attends to vivid, specific details to create a sense of wonder, connection, and surprise.</itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>22:56</itunes:duration>
  <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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  <description>In this episode, we discuss the way in which Matthew Zapruder attends to vivid, specific details to create a sense of wonder, connection, and surprise. 
To read "Poem for Wisconsin," click here (https://poets.org/poem/poem-wisconsin).
"Poem for Wisconsin" originally appeared in the collection  Sun Bear. Thanks to Copper Canyon Press (https://www.coppercanyonpress.org/books/sun-bear-by-matthew-zapruder/) for granting us permission to read this poem on the podcast.
For a glimpse of the "Bronze Fonz," click here (https://www.visitmilwaukee.org/articles/about-mke/bronze-fonz/).
To see how the Milwaukee Art Museum opens its wings, watch this time-lapse video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGQJPkQL0fU).
For a sense of the "many moods" of Lake Michigan, see the photography of the wonderful Jin Lee (https://jinleephotography.net/great-water).
</description>
  <itunes:keywords>21st century, free verse, laborers, surprise, winter, wonder</itunes:keywords>
  <content:encoded>
    <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss the way in which Matthew Zapruder attends to vivid, specific details to create a sense of wonder, connection, and surprise. </p>

<p>To read &quot;Poem for Wisconsin,&quot; click <a href="https://poets.org/poem/poem-wisconsin" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p>

<p>&quot;Poem for Wisconsin&quot; originally appeared in the collection  <em>Sun Bear</em>. Thanks to <a href="https://www.coppercanyonpress.org/books/sun-bear-by-matthew-zapruder/" rel="nofollow">Copper Canyon Press</a> for granting us permission to read this poem on the podcast.</p>

<p>For a glimpse of the &quot;Bronze Fonz,&quot; click <a href="https://www.visitmilwaukee.org/articles/about-mke/bronze-fonz/" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p>

<p>To see how the Milwaukee Art Museum opens its wings, watch this <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGQJPkQL0fU" rel="nofollow">time-lapse video</a>.</p>

<p>For a sense of the &quot;many moods&quot; of Lake Michigan, see the photography of the wonderful <a href="https://jinleephotography.net/great-water" rel="nofollow">Jin Lee</a>.</p>]]>
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  <itunes:summary>
    <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss the way in which Matthew Zapruder attends to vivid, specific details to create a sense of wonder, connection, and surprise. </p>

<p>To read &quot;Poem for Wisconsin,&quot; click <a href="https://poets.org/poem/poem-wisconsin" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p>

<p>&quot;Poem for Wisconsin&quot; originally appeared in the collection  <em>Sun Bear</em>. Thanks to <a href="https://www.coppercanyonpress.org/books/sun-bear-by-matthew-zapruder/" rel="nofollow">Copper Canyon Press</a> for granting us permission to read this poem on the podcast.</p>

<p>For a glimpse of the &quot;Bronze Fonz,&quot; click <a href="https://www.visitmilwaukee.org/articles/about-mke/bronze-fonz/" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p>

<p>To see how the Milwaukee Art Museum opens its wings, watch this <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGQJPkQL0fU" rel="nofollow">time-lapse video</a>.</p>

<p>For a sense of the &quot;many moods&quot; of Lake Michigan, see the photography of the wonderful <a href="https://jinleephotography.net/great-water" rel="nofollow">Jin Lee</a>.</p>]]>
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  <title>Episode 25: William Carlos Williams, "This is Just to Say"</title>
  <link>https://poetryforall.fireside.fm/25</link>
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  <pubDate>Wed, 08 Sep 2021 12:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
  <author>Joanne Diaz and Abram Van Engen</author>
  <enclosure url="https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/d55a3bfc-6538-4214-882b-a389e71b4bf6/0a402f82-0f0a-4c4d-950b-d0d546557d16.mp3" length="12799537" type="audio/mpeg"/>
  <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
  <itunes:season>3</itunes:season>
  <itunes:author>Joanne Diaz and Abram Van Engen</itunes:author>
  <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, we discuss a simple, iconic, "sorry-not sorry" poem from the early age of American modernism, which has taken on new life in the age of Twitter and the pandemic.</itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>18:13</itunes:duration>
  <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
  <itunes:image href="https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-images-2024/podcasts/images/d/d55a3bfc-6538-4214-882b-a389e71b4bf6/episodes/0/0a402f82-0f0a-4c4d-950b-d0d546557d16/cover.jpg?v=1"/>
  <description>In this episode, we discuss a simple, iconic, "sorry-not sorry" poem from the early age of American modernism, which has taken on new life in the age of Twitter and the pandemic.
For more on William Carlos Williams (https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/william-carlos-williams), see the Poetry Foundation. See the text of "This is Just to Say (https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/56159/this-is-just-to-say)" there as well.
“This Is Just to Say” by William Carlos Williams, from The Collected Poems: Volume I, 1909-1939, copyright ©1938 by New Directions Publishing Corp. Used by permission of New Directions Publishing Corp. 
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  <itunes:keywords>20th century, free verse, modernism, surprise, wonder</itunes:keywords>
  <content:encoded>
    <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss a simple, iconic, &quot;sorry-not sorry&quot; poem from the early age of American modernism, which has taken on new life in the age of Twitter and the pandemic.</p>

<p>For more on <a href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/william-carlos-williams" rel="nofollow">William Carlos Williams</a>, see the Poetry Foundation. See the text of &quot;<a href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/56159/this-is-just-to-say" rel="nofollow">This is Just to Say</a>&quot; there as well.</p>

<p>“This Is Just to Say” by William Carlos Williams, from <em>The Collected Poems: Volume I, 1909-1939</em>, copyright ©1938 by New Directions Publishing Corp. Used by permission of New Directions Publishing Corp.</p>]]>
  </content:encoded>
  <itunes:summary>
    <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss a simple, iconic, &quot;sorry-not sorry&quot; poem from the early age of American modernism, which has taken on new life in the age of Twitter and the pandemic.</p>

<p>For more on <a href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/william-carlos-williams" rel="nofollow">William Carlos Williams</a>, see the Poetry Foundation. See the text of &quot;<a href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/56159/this-is-just-to-say" rel="nofollow">This is Just to Say</a>&quot; there as well.</p>

<p>“This Is Just to Say” by William Carlos Williams, from <em>The Collected Poems: Volume I, 1909-1939</em>, copyright ©1938 by New Directions Publishing Corp. Used by permission of New Directions Publishing Corp.</p>]]>
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  <title>Episode 24: Robert Hayden, Those Winter Sundays</title>
  <link>https://poetryforall.fireside.fm/24</link>
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  <pubDate>Mon, 14 Jun 2021 13:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
  <author>Joanne Diaz and Abram Van Engen</author>
  <enclosure url="https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/d55a3bfc-6538-4214-882b-a389e71b4bf6/85fa8fcb-1c95-4f9c-b677-18cb88c47ea1.mp3" length="15598451" type="audio/mpeg"/>
  <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
  <itunes:season>2</itunes:season>
  <itunes:author>Joanne Diaz and Abram Van Engen</itunes:author>
  <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>20:49</itunes:duration>
  <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
  <itunes:image href="https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-images-2024/podcasts/images/d/d55a3bfc-6538-4214-882b-a389e71b4bf6/episodes/8/85fa8fcb-1c95-4f9c-b677-18cb88c47ea1/cover.jpg?v=2"/>
  <description>Robert Hayden was one of the greatest American poets of the twentieth century. His poems are known for their formal grace and his deep and broad explorations of the African American experience. "Those Winter Sundays" is one of our all-time favorite poems. We hope you enjoy this conversation.
For the text of "Those Winter Sundays," click here: https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/46461/those-winter-sundays
For more about Robert Hayden, click here:  https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/robert-hayden
We love Reginald Dwayne Betts's introduction to the Centenary Edition of Robert Hayden's Collected Poems, edited by Frederick Glaysher. Please do find a copy at your local library or at your favorite bookstore: https://wwnorton.com/books/9780871406798 
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  <itunes:keywords>20th century, aging, black history month, children, father's day, gratitude, love, sonnet, surprise, winter, wonder</itunes:keywords>
  <content:encoded>
    <![CDATA[<p>Robert Hayden was one of the greatest American poets of the twentieth century. His poems are known for their formal grace and his deep and broad explorations of the African American experience. &quot;Those Winter Sundays&quot; is one of our all-time favorite poems. We hope you enjoy this conversation.</p>

<p>For the text of &quot;Those Winter Sundays,&quot; click here: <a href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/46461/those-winter-sundays" rel="nofollow">https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/46461/those-winter-sundays</a></p>

<p>For more about Robert Hayden, click here:  <a href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/robert-hayden" rel="nofollow">https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/robert-hayden</a></p>

<p>We love Reginald Dwayne Betts&#39;s introduction to the Centenary Edition of Robert Hayden&#39;s <em>Collected Poems,</em> edited by Frederick Glaysher. Please do find a copy at your local library or at your favorite bookstore: <a href="https://wwnorton.com/books/9780871406798" rel="nofollow">https://wwnorton.com/books/9780871406798</a></p>]]>
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  <itunes:summary>
    <![CDATA[<p>Robert Hayden was one of the greatest American poets of the twentieth century. His poems are known for their formal grace and his deep and broad explorations of the African American experience. &quot;Those Winter Sundays&quot; is one of our all-time favorite poems. We hope you enjoy this conversation.</p>

<p>For the text of &quot;Those Winter Sundays,&quot; click here: <a href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/46461/those-winter-sundays" rel="nofollow">https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/46461/those-winter-sundays</a></p>

<p>For more about Robert Hayden, click here:  <a href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/robert-hayden" rel="nofollow">https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/robert-hayden</a></p>

<p>We love Reginald Dwayne Betts&#39;s introduction to the Centenary Edition of Robert Hayden&#39;s <em>Collected Poems,</em> edited by Frederick Glaysher. Please do find a copy at your local library or at your favorite bookstore: <a href="https://wwnorton.com/books/9780871406798" rel="nofollow">https://wwnorton.com/books/9780871406798</a></p>]]>
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  <title>Episode 19: Naomi Shihab Nye, Gate A-4</title>
  <link>https://poetryforall.fireside.fm/19</link>
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  <pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2021 18:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
  <author>Joanne Diaz and Abram Van Engen</author>
  <enclosure url="https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/d55a3bfc-6538-4214-882b-a389e71b4bf6/4e75b8fc-c85a-4f4e-8355-dbd15488422a.mp3" length="15130345" type="audio/mpeg"/>
  <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
  <itunes:season>2</itunes:season>
  <itunes:author>Joanne Diaz and Abram Van Engen</itunes:author>
  <itunes:subtitle>Remember airports? In this wonderful, narrative poem, Nye speaks of the remarkable capacity for community in a world of strangers.</itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>18:59</itunes:duration>
  <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
  <itunes:image href="https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-images-2024/podcasts/images/d/d55a3bfc-6538-4214-882b-a389e71b4bf6/episodes/4/4e75b8fc-c85a-4f4e-8355-dbd15488422a/cover.jpg?v=3"/>
  <description>Naomi Shihab Nye, a Palestinian-American poet born in St. Louis and raised in Jerusalem and San Antonio, focuses on the ordinary to observe the extraordinary. Her poetry often speaks of cultural encounters and celebrates different cultures. She is the recipient of many awards and is currently the Poetry Foundation's Young People's Poet Laureate. 
In this poem, we explore what makes a poem "poetry" versus some other genre, and we consider what difference such designations make while walking through a longer, narrative poem.
For the text of the poem, see here: https://poets.org/poem/gate-4
For more on Naomi Shihab Nye, see the Poetry Foundation: https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/naomi-shihab-nye
This poem comes from Honeybee: Poems and Short Prose (https://www.amazon.com/Honeybee-Poems-Naomi-Shihab-Nye/dp/0060853905).
The image has a creative commons license and can be found here (https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Naomishihabnye.jpg). 
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  <itunes:keywords>21st century, hope, joy, narrative, social justice and advocacy, spirituality, surprise, wonder</itunes:keywords>
  <content:encoded>
    <![CDATA[<p>Naomi Shihab Nye, a Palestinian-American poet born in St. Louis and raised in Jerusalem and San Antonio, focuses on the ordinary to observe the extraordinary. Her poetry often speaks of cultural encounters and celebrates different cultures. She is the recipient of many awards and is currently the Poetry Foundation&#39;s Young People&#39;s Poet Laureate. </p>

<p>In this poem, we explore what makes a poem &quot;poetry&quot; versus some other genre, and we consider what difference such designations make while walking through a longer, narrative poem.</p>

<p>For the text of the poem, see here: <a href="https://poets.org/poem/gate-4" rel="nofollow">https://poets.org/poem/gate-4</a></p>

<p>For more on Naomi Shihab Nye, see the Poetry Foundation: <a href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/naomi-shihab-nye" rel="nofollow">https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/naomi-shihab-nye</a></p>

<p>This poem comes from <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Honeybee-Poems-Naomi-Shihab-Nye/dp/0060853905" rel="nofollow">Honeybee: Poems and Short Prose</a>.</p>

<p>The image has a creative commons license and can be <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Naomishihabnye.jpg" rel="nofollow">found here</a>.</p>]]>
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  <itunes:summary>
    <![CDATA[<p>Naomi Shihab Nye, a Palestinian-American poet born in St. Louis and raised in Jerusalem and San Antonio, focuses on the ordinary to observe the extraordinary. Her poetry often speaks of cultural encounters and celebrates different cultures. She is the recipient of many awards and is currently the Poetry Foundation&#39;s Young People&#39;s Poet Laureate. </p>

<p>In this poem, we explore what makes a poem &quot;poetry&quot; versus some other genre, and we consider what difference such designations make while walking through a longer, narrative poem.</p>

<p>For the text of the poem, see here: <a href="https://poets.org/poem/gate-4" rel="nofollow">https://poets.org/poem/gate-4</a></p>

<p>For more on Naomi Shihab Nye, see the Poetry Foundation: <a href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/naomi-shihab-nye" rel="nofollow">https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/naomi-shihab-nye</a></p>

<p>This poem comes from <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Honeybee-Poems-Naomi-Shihab-Nye/dp/0060853905" rel="nofollow">Honeybee: Poems and Short Prose</a>.</p>

<p>The image has a creative commons license and can be <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Naomishihabnye.jpg" rel="nofollow">found here</a>.</p>]]>
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  <title>Episode 18: Jenny Johnson, Dappled Things</title>
  <link>https://poetryforall.fireside.fm/18</link>
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  <pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2021 11:30:00 -0500</pubDate>
  <author>Joanne Diaz and Abram Van Engen</author>
  <enclosure url="https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/d55a3bfc-6538-4214-882b-a389e71b4bf6/6ae4fd6e-30a4-444e-98e2-e7f1740d9396.mp3" length="15664719" type="audio/mpeg"/>
  <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
  <itunes:season>2</itunes:season>
  <itunes:author>Joanne Diaz and Abram Van Engen</itunes:author>
  <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, Jenny Johnson discusses the sources of inspiration for her poem "Dappled Things," her love of Gerard Manley Hopkins, and the incredible diversity--and fragility--of the natural world.</itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>27:25</itunes:duration>
  <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
  <itunes:image href="https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-images-2024/podcasts/images/d/d55a3bfc-6538-4214-882b-a389e71b4bf6/episodes/6/6ae4fd6e-30a4-444e-98e2-e7f1740d9396/cover.jpg?v=1"/>
  <description>Jenny Johnson is the author of In Full Velvet (Sarabande Books, 2017).  Her honors include a Whiting Award, a Hodder Fellowship at Princeton University, and a NEA Fellowship. She has also received awards and scholarships from the Blue Mountain Center, Bread Loaf Writer’s Conference, Virginia Center for the Creative Arts, and Yaddo. Her poems have appeared in The New York Times, New England Review, Troubling the Line: Trans and Genderqueer Poetry and Poetics, and elsewhere. After earning a BA/MT in English Education from the University of Virginia, she taught public school for several years in San Francisco, and she spent ten summers on the staff of the UVA Young Writer’s Workshop. She earned an MFA in Poetry from Warren Wilson College. She is an Assistant Professor of Creative Writing at West Virginia University, and she is on the faculty of the Rainier Writing Workshop, Pacific Lutheran University’s low-residency MFA program.
For more about Jenny, please visit her website: https://www.jennyjohnsonpoet.com/
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  <itunes:keywords>21st century, gratitude, guest on the show, joy, lgbtqia month, nature poetry, thanksgiving, wonder</itunes:keywords>
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    <![CDATA[<p>Jenny Johnson is the author of In Full Velvet (Sarabande Books, 2017).  Her honors include a Whiting Award, a Hodder Fellowship at Princeton University, and a NEA Fellowship. She has also received awards and scholarships from the Blue Mountain Center, Bread Loaf Writer’s Conference, Virginia Center for the Creative Arts, and Yaddo. Her poems have appeared in The New York Times, New England Review, Troubling the Line: Trans and Genderqueer Poetry and Poetics, and elsewhere. After earning a BA/MT in English Education from the University of Virginia, she taught public school for several years in San Francisco, and she spent ten summers on the staff of the UVA Young Writer’s Workshop. She earned an MFA in Poetry from Warren Wilson College. She is an Assistant Professor of Creative Writing at West Virginia University, and she is on the faculty of the Rainier Writing Workshop, Pacific Lutheran University’s low-residency MFA program.</p>

<p>For more about Jenny, please visit her website: <a href="https://www.jennyjohnsonpoet.com/" rel="nofollow">https://www.jennyjohnsonpoet.com/</a></p>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<p>Jenny Johnson is the author of In Full Velvet (Sarabande Books, 2017).  Her honors include a Whiting Award, a Hodder Fellowship at Princeton University, and a NEA Fellowship. She has also received awards and scholarships from the Blue Mountain Center, Bread Loaf Writer’s Conference, Virginia Center for the Creative Arts, and Yaddo. Her poems have appeared in The New York Times, New England Review, Troubling the Line: Trans and Genderqueer Poetry and Poetics, and elsewhere. After earning a BA/MT in English Education from the University of Virginia, she taught public school for several years in San Francisco, and she spent ten summers on the staff of the UVA Young Writer’s Workshop. She earned an MFA in Poetry from Warren Wilson College. She is an Assistant Professor of Creative Writing at West Virginia University, and she is on the faculty of the Rainier Writing Workshop, Pacific Lutheran University’s low-residency MFA program.</p>

<p>For more about Jenny, please visit her website: <a href="https://www.jennyjohnsonpoet.com/" rel="nofollow">https://www.jennyjohnsonpoet.com/</a></p>]]>
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  <title>Episode 17: Gerard Manley Hopkins, Pied Beauty</title>
  <link>https://poetryforall.fireside.fm/17</link>
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  <pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2021 09:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
  <author>Joanne Diaz and Abram Van Engen</author>
  <enclosure url="https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/d55a3bfc-6538-4214-882b-a389e71b4bf6/35439135-75b3-4571-bcb0-504b79603378.mp3" length="11340826" type="audio/mpeg"/>
  <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
  <itunes:season>2</itunes:season>
  <itunes:author>Joanne Diaz and Abram Van Engen</itunes:author>
  <itunes:subtitle>In this extraordinary curtal sonnet (a shortened sonnet, curtailed), Hopkins packs immense power. He uses the shortened form to heighten the emotion, drawing himself up short in the end with nothing else that can be said other than "Praise him." This week, we walk through these short lines and unfold some of the ways that Hopkins works. </itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>14:35</itunes:duration>
  <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
  <itunes:image href="https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-images-2024/podcasts/images/d/d55a3bfc-6538-4214-882b-a389e71b4bf6/episodes/3/35439135-75b3-4571-bcb0-504b79603378/cover.jpg?v=2"/>
  <description>Pied Beauty
Glory be to God for dappled things –
   For skies of couple-colour as a brinded cow;
      For rose-moles all in stipple upon trout that swim;
Fresh-firecoal chestnut-falls; finches’ wings;
   Landscape plotted and pieced – fold, fallow, and plough;
      And áll trádes, their gear and tackle and trim.
All things counter, original, spare, strange;
   Whatever is fickle, freckled (who knows how?)
      With swift, slow; sweet, sour; adazzle, dim;
He fathers-forth whose beauty is past change:
                                Praise him.
In this extraordinary curtal sonnet (a shortened sonnet, curtailed), Hopkins packs immense power. He uses the shortened form to heighten the emotion, drawing himself up short in the end with nothing else that can be said other than "Praise him." This week, we walk through these short lines and unfold some of the ways that Hopkins works. 
Hopkins was an immensely influential poet of the Victorian era (late 1800s) whose work was not published or encountered until 1918 in the modernist era. He was a reclusive, Jesuit priest who struggled with depression, but who could also be given over to incredible acts of wonder and praise (as in this poem). He stands outside his  time, and has been read and loved by poets of all different persuasions throughout the twentieth and twenty-first centuries.
For more informaiton on Hopkins, please see The Poetry Foundation (https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/gerard-manley-hopkins). 
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  <itunes:keywords>19th century, alliterative verse, gratitude, joy, nature poetry, rhymed verse, sonnet, thanksgiving, wonder</itunes:keywords>
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    <![CDATA[<p><strong>Pied Beauty</strong></p>

<p>Glory be to God for dappled things –<br>
   For skies of couple-colour as a brinded cow;<br>
      For rose-moles all in stipple upon trout that swim;<br>
Fresh-firecoal chestnut-falls; finches’ wings;<br>
   Landscape plotted and pieced – fold, fallow, and plough;<br>
      And áll trádes, their gear and tackle and trim.</p>

<p>All things counter, original, spare, strange;<br>
   Whatever is fickle, freckled (who knows how?)<br>
      With swift, slow; sweet, sour; adazzle, dim;<br>
He fathers-forth whose beauty is past change:<br>
                                Praise him.</p>

<p>In this extraordinary curtal sonnet (a shortened sonnet, curtailed), Hopkins packs immense power. He uses the shortened form to heighten the emotion, drawing himself up short in the end with nothing else that can be said other than &quot;Praise him.&quot; This week, we walk through these short lines and unfold some of the ways that Hopkins works. </p>

<p>Hopkins was an immensely influential poet of the Victorian era (late 1800s) whose work was not published or encountered until 1918 in the modernist era. He was a reclusive, Jesuit priest who struggled with depression, but who could also be given over to incredible acts of wonder and praise (as in this poem). He stands outside his  time, and has been read and loved by poets of all different persuasions throughout the twentieth and twenty-first centuries.</p>

<p>For more informaiton on Hopkins, please see <a href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/gerard-manley-hopkins" rel="nofollow">The Poetry Foundation</a>.</p>]]>
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  <itunes:summary>
    <![CDATA[<p><strong>Pied Beauty</strong></p>

<p>Glory be to God for dappled things –<br>
   For skies of couple-colour as a brinded cow;<br>
      For rose-moles all in stipple upon trout that swim;<br>
Fresh-firecoal chestnut-falls; finches’ wings;<br>
   Landscape plotted and pieced – fold, fallow, and plough;<br>
      And áll trádes, their gear and tackle and trim.</p>

<p>All things counter, original, spare, strange;<br>
   Whatever is fickle, freckled (who knows how?)<br>
      With swift, slow; sweet, sour; adazzle, dim;<br>
He fathers-forth whose beauty is past change:<br>
                                Praise him.</p>

<p>In this extraordinary curtal sonnet (a shortened sonnet, curtailed), Hopkins packs immense power. He uses the shortened form to heighten the emotion, drawing himself up short in the end with nothing else that can be said other than &quot;Praise him.&quot; This week, we walk through these short lines and unfold some of the ways that Hopkins works. </p>

<p>Hopkins was an immensely influential poet of the Victorian era (late 1800s) whose work was not published or encountered until 1918 in the modernist era. He was a reclusive, Jesuit priest who struggled with depression, but who could also be given over to incredible acts of wonder and praise (as in this poem). He stands outside his  time, and has been read and loved by poets of all different persuasions throughout the twentieth and twenty-first centuries.</p>

<p>For more informaiton on Hopkins, please see <a href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/gerard-manley-hopkins" rel="nofollow">The Poetry Foundation</a>.</p>]]>
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  <title>Episode 8: Toi Derricotte, "The Minks"</title>
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  <pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2020 11:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
  <author>Joanne Diaz and Abram Van Engen</author>
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  <itunes:subtitle>This week, with special guest Carl Phillips, we take a close look at "The Minks" and consider the art of narrative poetry and the movements of a single-stanza poem.</itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>20:18</itunes:duration>
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  <description>Carl Phillips joins us this week to take a close look at Toi Derricotte's "The Minks." Together we consider the art of narrative poetry, the movements of a single-stanza poem, and the meaning of line breaks.
Toi Derricotte is the author of five books of poetry and a collection of prose called The Black Notebooks. She has won numerous awards and fellowhips, including the Lucille Medwick Memorial Award from the Poetry Society of America, the Distinguished Pioneering of the Arts Award from the United Black Artists, the Paterson Award for Sustained Literary Achievement, the PEN/Voelcker Award, and two Pushcart Prizes. With Cornelius Eady she co-founded Cave Canem in 1996, an organization committed to furthering the artistic and professional opportunities for African American poets. "The Minks" comes from her 1990 book Captivity, which explores the legacies of slavery and its impact on African American families in the present day. It is included in I: New and Selected Poems published by the University of Pittsburgh Press, which granted us permission to read it for this podcast.
Carl Phillips, our guest for this episode, is also an award-winning poet of multiple collections, most recently Pale Colors in a Tall Field (2020). He has had three books nominated for a National Book Award and has won the Samuel French Morse Poetry Prize, the Los Angeles Times Book Prize for Poetry, a Pushcart Prize, the Kingsley Tuft Poetry Award, and numerous fellowships and other awards. Thank you to Carl for joining us today as our first guest!
For more on Toi Derricotte, please see here: https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/toi-derricotte
For more on Carl Phillips, please see here: https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/carl-phillips
For the full text of "The Minks," please see here: https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/42872/the-minks 
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  <itunes:keywords>21st century, black history month, free verse, guest on the show, narrative, surprise, wonder</itunes:keywords>
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    <![CDATA[<p>Carl Phillips joins us this week to take a close look at Toi Derricotte&#39;s &quot;The Minks.&quot; Together we consider the art of narrative poetry, the movements of a single-stanza poem, and the meaning of line breaks.</p>

<p>Toi Derricotte is the author of five books of poetry and a collection of prose called The Black Notebooks. She has won numerous awards and fellowhips, including the Lucille Medwick Memorial Award from the Poetry Society of America, the Distinguished Pioneering of the Arts Award from the United Black Artists, the Paterson Award for Sustained Literary Achievement, the PEN/Voelcker Award, and two Pushcart Prizes. With Cornelius Eady she co-founded Cave Canem in 1996, an organization committed to furthering the artistic and professional opportunities for African American poets. &quot;The Minks&quot; comes from her 1990 book Captivity, which explores the legacies of slavery and its impact on African American families in the present day. It is included in I: New and Selected Poems published by the University of Pittsburgh Press, which granted us permission to read it for this podcast.</p>

<p>Carl Phillips, our guest for this episode, is also an award-winning poet of multiple collections, most recently Pale Colors in a Tall Field (2020). He has had three books nominated for a National Book Award and has won the Samuel French Morse Poetry Prize, the Los Angeles Times Book Prize for Poetry, a Pushcart Prize, the Kingsley Tuft Poetry Award, and numerous fellowships and other awards. Thank you to Carl for joining us today as our first guest!</p>

<p>For more on Toi Derricotte, please see here: <a href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/toi-derricotte" rel="nofollow">https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/toi-derricotte</a></p>

<p>For more on Carl Phillips, please see here: <a href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/carl-phillips" rel="nofollow">https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/carl-phillips</a></p>

<p>For the full text of &quot;The Minks,&quot; please see here: <a href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/42872/the-minks" rel="nofollow">https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/42872/the-minks</a></p><p>Links:</p><ul><li><a title="The Minks by Toi Derricotte | Poetry Foundation" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/42872/the-minks">The Minks by Toi Derricotte | Poetry Foundation</a></li><li><a title="Toi Derricotte | Poetry Foundation" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/toi-derricotte">Toi Derricotte | Poetry Foundation</a></li><li><a title="I - University of Pittsburgh Press" rel="nofollow" href="https://upittpress.org/books/9780822945666/">I - University of Pittsburgh Press</a></li><li><a title="Carl Phillips | Poetry Foundation" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/carl-phillips">Carl Phillips | Poetry Foundation</a> &mdash; the Kingsley Tuft Poetry Award</li></ul>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<p>Carl Phillips joins us this week to take a close look at Toi Derricotte&#39;s &quot;The Minks.&quot; Together we consider the art of narrative poetry, the movements of a single-stanza poem, and the meaning of line breaks.</p>

<p>Toi Derricotte is the author of five books of poetry and a collection of prose called The Black Notebooks. She has won numerous awards and fellowhips, including the Lucille Medwick Memorial Award from the Poetry Society of America, the Distinguished Pioneering of the Arts Award from the United Black Artists, the Paterson Award for Sustained Literary Achievement, the PEN/Voelcker Award, and two Pushcart Prizes. With Cornelius Eady she co-founded Cave Canem in 1996, an organization committed to furthering the artistic and professional opportunities for African American poets. &quot;The Minks&quot; comes from her 1990 book Captivity, which explores the legacies of slavery and its impact on African American families in the present day. It is included in I: New and Selected Poems published by the University of Pittsburgh Press, which granted us permission to read it for this podcast.</p>

<p>Carl Phillips, our guest for this episode, is also an award-winning poet of multiple collections, most recently Pale Colors in a Tall Field (2020). He has had three books nominated for a National Book Award and has won the Samuel French Morse Poetry Prize, the Los Angeles Times Book Prize for Poetry, a Pushcart Prize, the Kingsley Tuft Poetry Award, and numerous fellowships and other awards. Thank you to Carl for joining us today as our first guest!</p>

<p>For more on Toi Derricotte, please see here: <a href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/toi-derricotte" rel="nofollow">https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/toi-derricotte</a></p>

<p>For more on Carl Phillips, please see here: <a href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/carl-phillips" rel="nofollow">https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/carl-phillips</a></p>

<p>For the full text of &quot;The Minks,&quot; please see here: <a href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/42872/the-minks" rel="nofollow">https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/42872/the-minks</a></p><p>Links:</p><ul><li><a title="The Minks by Toi Derricotte | Poetry Foundation" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/42872/the-minks">The Minks by Toi Derricotte | Poetry Foundation</a></li><li><a title="Toi Derricotte | Poetry Foundation" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/toi-derricotte">Toi Derricotte | Poetry Foundation</a></li><li><a title="I - University of Pittsburgh Press" rel="nofollow" href="https://upittpress.org/books/9780822945666/">I - University of Pittsburgh Press</a></li><li><a title="Carl Phillips | Poetry Foundation" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/carl-phillips">Carl Phillips | Poetry Foundation</a> &mdash; the Kingsley Tuft Poetry Award</li></ul>]]>
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  <title>Episode 1: Seamus Heaney, Digging</title>
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  <pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2020 12:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
  <author>Joanne Diaz and Abram Van Engen</author>
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  <itunes:subtitle>We begin Poetry for All by teaching and talking about a great poem on poetry itself: Seamus Heaney's "Digging."</itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>14:44</itunes:duration>
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  <description>In this episode, we begin learning about poetry through Seamus Heaney's great poem "Digging."
For the text of Heaney's poem, please see: https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/47555/digging
To hear Seamus Heaney reading this poem himself, please see: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNRkPU1LSUg
For more on Seamus Heaney, please visit: https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/seamus-heaney 
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  <itunes:keywords>20th century, ars poetica, free verse, laborers, wonder</itunes:keywords>
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    <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we begin learning about poetry through Seamus Heaney&#39;s great poem &quot;Digging.&quot;</p>

<p>For the text of Heaney&#39;s poem, please see: <a href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/47555/digging" rel="nofollow">https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/47555/digging</a></p>

<p>To hear Seamus Heaney reading this poem himself, please see: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNRkPU1LSUg" rel="nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNRkPU1LSUg</a></p>

<p>For more on Seamus Heaney, please visit: <a href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/seamus-heaney" rel="nofollow">https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/seamus-heaney</a></p><p>Links:</p><ul><li><a title="Digging by Seamus Heaney | Poetry Foundation" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/47555/digging">Digging by Seamus Heaney | Poetry Foundation</a></li><li><a title="Seamus Heaney reading &quot;Digging&quot;" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNRkPU1LSUg">Seamus Heaney reading "Digging"</a></li><li><a title="More on Seamus Heaney" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/seamus-heaney">More on Seamus Heaney</a></li><li><a title="Seamus Heaney, Death of a Naturalist" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.amazon.com/Death-Naturalist-Poetry-Seamus-Heaney/dp/0571230830">Seamus Heaney, Death of a Naturalist</a></li></ul>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we begin learning about poetry through Seamus Heaney&#39;s great poem &quot;Digging.&quot;</p>

<p>For the text of Heaney&#39;s poem, please see: <a href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/47555/digging" rel="nofollow">https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/47555/digging</a></p>

<p>To hear Seamus Heaney reading this poem himself, please see: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNRkPU1LSUg" rel="nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNRkPU1LSUg</a></p>

<p>For more on Seamus Heaney, please visit: <a href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/seamus-heaney" rel="nofollow">https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/seamus-heaney</a></p><p>Links:</p><ul><li><a title="Digging by Seamus Heaney | Poetry Foundation" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/47555/digging">Digging by Seamus Heaney | Poetry Foundation</a></li><li><a title="Seamus Heaney reading &quot;Digging&quot;" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNRkPU1LSUg">Seamus Heaney reading "Digging"</a></li><li><a title="More on Seamus Heaney" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/seamus-heaney">More on Seamus Heaney</a></li><li><a title="Seamus Heaney, Death of a Naturalist" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.amazon.com/Death-Naturalist-Poetry-Seamus-Heaney/dp/0571230830">Seamus Heaney, Death of a Naturalist</a></li></ul>]]>
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